Republics E170 Operation Out of Hawaiiy

[johnsonrod]

Republics E170 Operation Out of Hawaii

I know you Mercury guys are not hiring any time soon but I have some questions about your Hawaiian operations

1. With only 3 separate cities in Hawaii at the moment (Maui could be next) how do your schedules work and how many sectors per day?

2. Is the Hawaii base pretty senior? What year was the least senior FO there hired?

3. Does the flying there get boring after awhile or do you just really enjoy it and the nice weather?

4. Do you get any cost of living bump or is that a pipe dream?

I fly nowhere near sunny Hawaii and I realize no job is perfect but I always thought it would be a great change. I bet the pax like the roomy E170 too.

PMs are welcome.

 

[johnsonrod]

Hawaii

....... Double post

 

[ifly4u]

The most junior FO was hired 1/08 (not kidding). Believe it or not there aren't that many people willing to drop everything and move to Hawaii on two weeks notice.

 

[king10pin02]

I know you Mercury guys are not hiring any time soon but I have some questions about your Hawaiian operations

1. With only 3 separate cities in Hawaii at the moment (Maui could be next) how do your schedules work and how many sectors per day?

2. Is the Hawaii base pretty senior? What year was the least senior FO there hired?

3. Does the flying there get boring after awhile or do you just really enjoy it and the nice weather?

4. Do you get any cost of living bump or is that a pipe dream?

I fly nowhere near sunny Hawaii and I realize no job is perfect but I always thought it would be a great change. I bet the pax like the roomy E170 too.

PMs are welcome.

we are not expecting any growth in Hawaii, the lines suck, 8 short legs per day, zero cost of living adjustment. Even if we were hiring there is little to no chance of being based out there, its a small operation, 2 aircraft at the moment.

 

[dooork]

we are not expecting any growth in Hawaii, the lines suck, 8 short legs per day, zero cost of living adjustment. Even if we were hiring there is little to no chance of being based out there, its a small operation, 2 aircraft at the moment.

I heard the loads are realy low..25-30%..is that true?
If so they wont be in HI very long.

 

[king10pin02]

I heard the loads are realy low..25-30%..is that true?
If so they wont be in HI very long.

not sure what the load factors are, all of our codeshare load factors are lumped together when we report to the DOT/SEC. But I can tell you the Midwest loads are not good

 

[dooork]

not sure what the load factors are, all of our codeshare load factors are lumped together when we report to the DOT/SEC. But I can tell you the Midwest loads are not good

I would think it would be mokulele (whatever) reporting the loads.

 

[Metro752]

I recall Repubix is only operating aircraft temporarily for Mokulele?

 

[WSurf]

Can you imagine a new FO at 23.00hr living in HI? I wouldn't be ready to jump over there either.

Or does Republic give a cost of living adjustment?

 

[WSurf]

we are not expecting any growth in Hawaii, the lines suck, 8 short legs per day, zero cost of living adjustment. Even if we were hiring there is little to no chance of being based out there, its a small operation, 2 aircraft at the moment.

Nevermind, that sums it up.

 

[CA1900]

But I can tell you the Midwest loads are not good

No slight meant to you guys, but I buy tickets on Midwest for their terrific inflight service and their Signature seats. You're just not going to get either on an RJ, which might explain the low load factors.

 

[Metro752]

Can you imagine a new FO at 23.00hr living in HI? I wouldn't be ready to jump over there either.

Or does Republic give a cost of living adjustment?

are you kidding, they should be paying the company for the opportunity to sit right seat in the emb-180 flying mainline moku0loku

sheeesh :cartman:

 

[Moustache]

not sure what the load factors are, all of our codeshare load factors are lumped together when we report to the DOT/SEC. But I can tell you the Midwest loads are not good

Maybe Milwaukee people are finally figuring out what YX is.

 

[SBD]

Can you imagine a new FO at 23.00hr living in HI? I wouldn't be ready to jump over there either.

Or does Republic give a cost of living adjustment?

They probably have the best cardboard box under the overpass.

 

[RP170]

No slight meant to you guys, but I buy tickets on Midwest for their terrific inflight service and their Signature seats. You're just not going to get either on an RJ, which might explain the low load factors.

Tough to do now since Midwest is down to 9 717's. What a shame. Just flew on one of them the other day from MKE-MCO. Still very good service for coach.

 

[jellynuts]

No slight meant to you guys, but I buy tickets on Midwest for their terrific inflight service and their Signature seats. You're just not going to get either on an RJ, which might explain the low load factors.

The 170 is not a RJ! How dare you call it that!! I'm sure some Republic d$#che just had a heart attack reading that.......

 

[king10pin02]

The 170 is not a RJ! How dare you call it that!! I'm sure some Republic d$#che just had a heart attack reading that.......

republic d$#che? looks whos talking

 

[MCOE175]

Forget him King... he is just stuck at his go no where fast fancy prop job at PDT.

 

[Metro752]

I wanna fly an EMB-190!

 

[king10pin02]

I wanna fly an EMB-190!

so do I, if its at a mainline carrier

 

[Sig]

Forget him King... he is just stuck at his go no where fast fancy prop job at PDT.

But he had the nutz to stick around through CQ, instead of bailing out of fear... How many on your list are guilty of that? You aren't the panic-kid, are ya? Or maybe the one who called ops on the missed in IPT, with the captain AGAIN going single pilot?

For someone with such disdain for Piedmont, you sure keep tabs on our situation.

 

[Ratherbsurfing]

Forget him King... he is just stuck at his go no where fast fancy prop job at PDT.

Agreed. Mainline folks are miserable and surly, same for the two wholly owned stepchildren. There should be flow through, they deserve each other. Just an objective observation. . .

 

[thowe21]

Lets see it went very junior. Lines are 8 legs/day. Mostly HNL-KOA or HNL - LIH. Start Maui Feb1. No living stipend. I sit reserve by choice haven't flown yet...

hope that helps

 

[WSurf]

Forget him King... he is just stuck at his go no where fast fancy prop job at PDT.

Last time I checked we get paid by the minute. I don't wanna to go anywhere fast!

Now go out there and get a good contract and better pay on that equipment and make us all proud!!

 

[MCOE175]

Well Surf knowing our MEC we will prob end up with a contract like Mesa... Sucks but so does our MEC

 

[WSurf]

Well Surf knowing our MEC we will prob end up with a contract like Mesa... Sucks but so does our MEC

Well thats simple, just recall your officials.

 

[johnsonrod]

Thanks Thowe21,

After years of flying in the cold Midwest I can't help but wonder what it would be like to fly in paradise for a few years (i'd bid it for a year if I had the option - different airline). I guess 8 sectors per day would get old even in paradise. At least the Mercury and Mesa pilots get the option of bidding it for awhile.

Anyone know if Hawaiian will be hiring in 09?

 

[erikgigem]

No slight meant to you guys, but I buy tickets on Midwest for their terrific inflight service and their Signature seats. You're just not going to get either on an RJ, which might explain the low load factors.

That doesn't explain the load factors. 99.9% of passengers don't make decisions about who they will fly based on if they are flying on a mainline jet or a regional jet (although the frequent fliers would much prefer a comfortable jet over the cramped 50 seaters). Passengers make ticket purchases based on price, frequent-flier programs, or bundled deals on a vacation package.

Midwest load factors have been in the tank all last year - hence their financial problems. Regional flying has nothing to do with their financial woes.