Republic To Fly Spirit Routes

[PropPiedmont]

Spirit pilots asked for concessions

Robert P. Mark

1/26/2009​

Spirit Airline pilots, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA), this week rejected a new contract proposal from management that would force fresh concessions in pay, benefits and work rules. The proposal comes within weeks of the airline’s announcing plans to expand service in the Caribbean and United States. An ALPA news release claimed the concessions will turn the Spirit contract into the industry's worst.

On January 20, Spirit Airlines management put forward a new contract proposal that calls for $5.8 million in concessions, with additional concessions imposed if dramatic cuts to benefits are taken into account. Meanwhile, the company plans to spend millions to start service between Boston and Atlantic City, Chicago and Myrtle Beach, and throughout the Caribbean.

In addition, the new proposal states that pilots who are injured while on duty would be ineligible for worker’s compensation unless they can show that they are incapable of performing any job at the company—from secretary to janitor. Captain upgrades would also be based on management’s subjective assessment of the pilot’s personality. Both of these proposals are unheard of in the industry.

 

[Captainzero1]

When RAH writes the check to Sprit, then its a done deal.

 

[flyer172r]

When RAH writes the check to Sprit, then its a done deal.

Oh, I don't know. We wrote Frontier a big check right after losing the whole codeshare.

 

[lionflyer]

Oh, I don't know. We wrote Frontier a big check right after losing the whole codeshare.

Win some. Lose some.

 

[jws717]

Either this is flame, or Spirit is trying to break its pilot group. RAH is looking worse than Mesa every day.

 

[Capt10Matt]

Bedford's wife is prego again...I hear every time she has a bun in the oven, the Brickheads get a new codeshare... who knows

 

[DOVPILOT]

Hope Spirit doesn't become an other Midwest.

Don't forget the rumor about RAH doing the same to Alaska, sad day. I don't think there will be any career progression for any of us trying to get out of the regionals to the majors, we are our own worst enemy.

 

[erikgigem]

Republic takes over flying from Midex, and Spirit. Maybe one other? Also gains Mokulele flying.

Now they're an National/LCC with the WORST PAY IN THE HISTORY.

All the while everyone is complacent with their E180 job flying their mainline plane because they park at the mainline gates.

:angryfire

Intelligent posts. As soon as anyone gets new flying - Skywest, ASA, Colgen, Trans-state, Pinnacle, RAH.. they are they worst in history. Another pathetic post.

Look flight info peeps - the economy is tanking. There are too many "budget" airlines flying around with too many empty seats. Look for more of these desperate deals by the majors to stay alive another day. You might be flying them one day..

And I'm sure someone will call you pathetic too! Oh - and I'm sure you'll be accused as well as if you made the deal yourself with their CEO! Not only we fly the airplanes - we negotiate business deals too on our overnights! Amazing!

 

[Metro752]

Intelligent posts. As soon as anyone gets new flying - Skywest, ASA, Colgen, Trans-state, Pinnacle, RAH.. they are they worst in history. Another pathetic loser.

Look flight info peeps - the economy is tanking. There are too many "budget" airlines flying around with too many empty seats. Look for more of these desperate deals to stay alive another day. You might be flying them one day.. And I'm sure someone will call you pathetic too!

My post was not really about the pilots, except the ones that get all excited about more mainline jobs being lost to regional lift providers. So if that's you, waaaaaaaaa.

You're not one of the jerks all pysched about doing Delta Shuttle flying that was done by MD80s are you?

 

[erikgigem]

My post was not really about the pilots, except the ones that get all excited about more mainline jobs being lost to regional lift providers. So if that's you, waaaaaaaaa.

You're not one of the jerks all pysched about doing Delta Shuttle flying that was done by MD80s are you?

Personnally - I don't want the Delta Shuttle flights. However - the reality of the fact is that they need to be flown by ERJ-135s. Passenger loads run around 25-30.

I support that idea that regionals need to fly the small stuff instead of flying bigger and bigger jets - so if that was your point- cool. However, making regional pilots feel guilty and ashamed of something completely outside of their control is ridiculous. Its a repeated self-bashing, self-hating post everyday on this forum.

Majors cannot continue to fly empty airplanes. Instead of going out of business, (for better or worse), they make deals with regionals to stay alive another day. Looks like we are all in that boat. Unless your airline attempts another Independence Air deal.

 

[Popeye0537]

Either this is flame, or Spirit is trying to break its pilot group. RAH is looking worse than Mesa every day.

This comming from a tool who thinks it's Good to work for Skywest and Bad to work for CHQ. You need to get your priorities straight.

 

[Metro752]

Majors cannot continue to fly empty airplanes. Instead of going out of business, (for better or worse), they make deals with regionals to stay alive another day. Looks like we are all in that boat. Unless your airline attempts another Independence Air deal.

Then fly the smaller planes on a mainline seniority list.

 

[Popeye0537]

Then fly the smaller planes on a mainline seniority list.

Why, majors gave away that ability long ago to secure what they thought were going to be better wages flying bigger planes.

I like flying bigger planes with my company as long as the majors keep offering them up.

 

[Metro752]

This is pointless, and the thread is obviously flame bait.

 

[erikgigem]

Then fly the smaller planes on a mainline seniority list.

Keep your advice.

How about let's do our best to offer a safe, reliable, and customer-friendly experience on the airplanes we do fly.

How about letting our CEOs figure things out to keep their airlines alive, and we pilots support our unions to fight for better pay, quality of life. Take the company to task when they violate the contract.

Use this site as at tool to educate and motive pilot groups to by unified in that goal instead of giving into demands to surrender benefits.

How about lets quit the blame-game, accusations on this website. Stop these petty jealous (not you - everyone) remarks about each other. It makes us all look small and unprofessional.

 

[relief tube]

Now they're an National/LCC with the WORST PAY IN THE HISTORY.

:angryfire

Explain bud.

It's middle of the road at worst according to what Im looking at.

 

[BrazPilot]

Flamebait. Your upper-management friend was snooping around and happens to find a inter-office memo with the name Republic on it? Get off those drugs dude....

 

[BUDDHA145]

is just going to get worse for all of us!!! main line, regional, even Flight Instructing...heres more bad news: ( I'm getting a big bottle of Jack!!) this sucks!!:

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/ALPA_Documents/ALPA_DocumentsView.aspx?itemid=17620&ModuleId=15681&Tabid=73


Release #09.UAL
January 22, 2009

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Statement from Captain Steve Wallach, Chairman, United Master Executive Council, Air Line Pilots Association, Regarding United’s ‘Innovative’ Partnership With Aer Lingus

“The day after reporting one of its worst quarterly financial results in history and after furloughing an additional 254 pilots (bringing the total to 606 pilots), United Airlines announced today that it has entered into what it calls an ‘innovative’ partnership with Aer Lingus.

“Aer Lingus has advised the Irish press that this joint venture will operate an Aer Lingus aircraft with neither United nor Aer Lingus employees, under a separate operating certificate and under newly established wages and working conditions. Obviously, this partnership will be accomplished at the expense of United’s and Aer Lingus’ own pilots and other employees. This development, where United attempts to establish an airline operation without the use of United aircraft or employees, is nothing less than the outsourcing of jobs to an international company, and clearly demonstrates that this management continues to make business decisions without regard to its pilots and other employees.

“The United pilots are exploring every option to put an end to the company’s blatant disregard and lack of loyalty to the United Airlines brand.”

ALPA Contact:
Dave Kelly
Phone: 708/704-5648
[email protected]

 

[Kream926]

As is the E-175 was it not? I mean mainline (USairways) did initially intend those planes for their pilots to fly.

how is a 170/175 a mainline airplane and the crj700/900 not? is it because the engines are wing mounted? i dont get it...

 

[dav8or]

RAH is going to take over and merge operations of Spirt, Frontier and Midwest making one super national flying 170/175/190/195 aircraft.