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AMR studies letting Eagle leave American's roost

By DAVID KOENIG

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DALLAS

For the second time in three years, American Airlines' parent is considering whether to sell or spin off regional carrier American Eagle, which ranks near the bottom of government statistics for airline service.

American, like the other major airlines, needs to cut costs. Outsourcing flights that connect travelers between American's hub airports and smaller cities will help it do that.

But Daniel Garton, the executive recently named to lead the smaller carrier, says keeping control of its own regional flights allows American to be more flexible -- it can change routes or add flights on the fly. So a sale of Eagle isn't inevitable.

If American pushes Eagle from the nest, it will join a trend that's been going on for several years. This week, Delta Air Lines Inc. announced it sold two of its regional carriers for $82.5 million. Increasingly, big airlines are outsourcing their regional flights to cut costs.

In 2007, AMR Corp. said it would divest Eagle and focus on running American. But the plan was scrapped in 2008 when record-high fuel prices hurt the value of regional airlines.

"It was cheaper to keep it than get rid of it," says Robert Herbst, a financial analyst who studies airlines.

Herbst thinks the market for Eagle is better now, and that a potential buyer could be Republic Airways Holdings Inc., which in the past year has bought Frontier and Midwest.

Basili Alukos, an airline analyst for Morningstar, thinks AMR would be smart to sell Eagle. He says there is much excess capacity among regional carriers, and if AMR puts its regional feeder service out to bid, it could cut costs.

Last year, Eagle accounted for 10 percent of AMR's revenue, or $2 billion. First-quarter revenue at Eagle was up 9 percent from a year ago. AMR doesn't say if Eagle is profitable.

Garton, who is also AMR's executive vice president of marketing, says he's been meeting with AMR's bankers before holding serious talks with potential buyers. And he's spending time getting to know Eagle.

Eagle is adding 70-seat aircraft to replace some of its older 50-seaters, which aren't economical at high fuel prices. And it's adding first-class seating on some planes, which should help it compete on business-travel routes such as Chicago-Atlanta and Atlanta-New York LaGuardia.

Eagle has consistently scored near the bottom in the Transportation Department's performance rankings of the 19 largest carriers. In the latest figures, for April, Eagle was tied for last in on-time arrivals and next to last for rates of canceled flights and mishandled baggage. So far this year, it bumps passengers more often than any other airline.

Garton says he doesn't have a magic fix, but he promises more attention to keeping flights on time.

"Although I was a marketing guy," he says, "I realize that you can create a lot of fancy ads, but if you don't deliver, the ads won't be effective."
 
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AMR studies letting Eagle leave American's roost

By DAVID KOENIG

STORY TOOLS

order a reprint
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DALLAS

For the second time in three years, American Airlines' parent is considering whether to sell or spin off regional carrier American Eagle, which ranks near the bottom of government statistics for airline service.

American, like the other major airlines, needs to cut costs. Outsourcing flights that connect travelers between American's hub airports and smaller cities will help it do that.

But Daniel Garton, the executive recently named to lead the smaller carrier, says keeping control of its own regional flights allows American to be more flexible -- it can change routes or add flights on the fly. So a sale of Eagle isn't inevitable.

If American pushes Eagle from the nest, it will join a trend that's been going on for several years. This week, Delta Air Lines Inc. announced it sold two of its regional carriers for $82.5 million. Increasingly, big airlines are outsourcing their regional flights to cut costs.

In 2007, AMR Corp. said it would divest Eagle and focus on running American. But the plan was scrapped in 2008 when record-high fuel prices hurt the value of regional airlines.

"It was cheaper to keep it than get rid of it," says Robert Herbst, a financial analyst who studies airlines.

Herbst thinks the market for Eagle is better now, and that a potential buyer could be Republic Airways Holdings Inc., which in the past year has bought Frontier and Midwest.

Basili Alukos, an airline analyst for Morningstar, thinks AMR would be smart to sell Eagle. He says there is much excess capacity among regional carriers, and if AMR puts its regional feeder service out to bid, it could cut costs.

Last year, Eagle accounted for 10 percent of AMR's revenue, or $2 billion. First-quarter revenue at Eagle was up 9 percent from a year ago. AMR doesn't say if Eagle is profitable.

Garton, who is also AMR's executive vice president of marketing, says he's been meeting with AMR's bankers before holding serious talks with potential buyers. And he's spending time getting to know Eagle.

Eagle is adding 70-seat aircraft to replace some of its older 50-seaters, which aren't economical at high fuel prices. And it's adding first-class seating on some planes, which should help it compete on business-travel routes such as Chicago-Atlanta and Atlanta-New York LaGuardia.

Eagle has consistently scored near the bottom in the Transportation Department's performance rankings of the 19 largest carriers. In the latest figures, for April, Eagle was tied for last in on-time arrivals and next to last for rates of canceled flights and mishandled baggage. So far this year, it bumps passengers more often than any other airline.

Garton says he doesn't have a magic fix, but he promises more attention to keeping flights on time.

"Although I was a marketing guy," he says, "I realize that you can create a lot of fancy ads, but if you don't deliver, the ads won't be effective."

Your post has nothing to do with RP. The author of the article simply was wondering out loud. Nothing to see here.
 
Republic has no capital with which to purchase Eagle? Republic is in the middle of digesting Frontier and Midwest and is not doing very well at that. They are burning cash at an alarming rate and have alienated many of their partners but becoming a competitor.

No, I do not think Republic is a serious buyer of Eagle. Republic may not even exist this time next year if they can't stop the hemoraging.
 
Republic has no capital with which to purchase Eagle? Republic is in the middle of digesting Frontier and Midwest and is not doing very well at that. They are burning cash at an alarming rate and have alienated many of their partners but becoming a competitor.

No, I do not think Republic is a serious buyer of Eagle. Republic may not even exist this time next year if they can't stop the hemoraging.

In your wet dreams.. Republic has been around for a long time, and will be around for much longer. MOST companies that begin or start a new venture lose lots of cash for many years. Profitability takes years as up-front costs and investments are required. Heck, Facebook has been around for many years and just finally turned just made a profit.

The only thing that will not exist is probably a quarter of these 50 seat aircraft. The market is shedding those as fast as possible as they are completely undesirable by the Majors and passengers.

Study the market and business fields before making such shallow uneducated conclusions.
 
Even "keep them in the plane" Wayne just dumped some shares.

By insider. EVP & COO Republic Airways Hol of Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (RJET) Wayne C Heller sells 4,166 shares of RJET on 07/01/2010 at an average price of $6.03 a share.
 
In your wet dreams.. Republic has been around for a long time, and will be around for much longer. MOST companies that begin or start a new venture lose lots of cash for many years. Profitability takes years as up-front costs and investments are required. Heck, Facebook has been around for many years and just finally turned just made a profit.

The only thing that will not exist is probably a quarter of these 50 seat aircraft. The market is shedding those as fast as possible as they are completely undesirable by the Majors and passengers.

Study the market and business fields before making such shallow uneducated conclusions.

"Study the market and business fields".....says the MKE based 190 guy who has to be praying at night his company stays in business.....
 
The only thing that will not exist is probably a quarter of these 50 seat aircraft. The market is shedding those as fast as possible as they are completely undesirable by the Majors and passengers.

Study the market and business fields before making such shallow uneducated conclusions.


Really? Wasn't it just 10 short years ago that everybody was touting the 50 seat RJ as a panacea? No more noisy, slow, low flying turbo-prop rattletraps. Now the passenger can fly quietly, high, quickly, and above the weather, making the travel experience so much better for the passenger. Are you saying that after all the whining and complaining people did about the Turbo-Props they now have the audacity to complain and whine about these quieter, faster, and smoother jets? I would have never guessed it! But I guess for the 1970's fares the public is paying, they deserve to complain about small jets. Time to put them back in the planes the regionals used to fly like the Dash, Saab, Beech, ATR!
 
Oh, and just in case Repukelick does buy Eagle, isn't the agreed upon merging of seniority lists between pilot groups of similar airlines a DOH merger? And unlike the AW and US merger, neither airline has anybody furloughed so it should be quite simple. The Eagle pilots are probably hoping this merger happens as over half of their FO's would become CA's and over half of RJET CA's become FO's. Or will they do what they did to the Midwest pilots and put them all out on the street, which I'm still scratching my head about as to not only the legality of it but the MORALITY of it!
 
No. It is not DOH.

Nice try at stirring the pot!

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Really? Wasn't it just 10 short years ago that everybody was touting the 50 seat RJ as a panacea? No more noisy, slow, low flying turbo-prop rattletraps. Now the passenger can fly quietly, high, quickly, and above the weather, making the travel experience so much better for the passenger. Are you saying that after all the whining and complaining people did about the Turbo-Props they now have the audacity to complain and whine about these quieter, faster, and smoother jets? I would have never guessed it! But I guess for the 1970's fares the public is paying, they deserve to complain about small jets. Time to put them back in the planes the regionals used to fly like the Dash, Saab, Beech, ATR!


IMHO the Dash and ATR have more room than the CRJ, and ERJ. Elbow room in theose jets is lacking and very uncomfortable. It's very difficult to use a laptop on those jets compared to the larger tprops....

I've flown the Dash and ATR, and they are more passenger friendly....just sayin'
 
Why on earth would anyone want to buy AE with mostly obsolete jets and scoped-out larger ones for their main customer?
 
In your wet dreams.. Republic has been around for a long time, and will be around for much longer. MOST companies that begin or start a new venture lose lots of cash for many years. Profitability takes years as up-front costs and investments are required. Heck, Facebook has been around for many years and just finally turned just made a profit.

The only thing that will not exist is probably a quarter of these 50 seat aircraft. The market is shedding those as fast as possible as they are completely undesirable by the Majors and passengers.

Study the market and business fields before making such shallow uneducated conclusions.


He's right! He might aswell be flying for free with what Republic flies him/her and his/her coworkers to fly the 190. How can other airlines compete with that?

RP's days are numbered. The quarterly report shows an extremely low amount of cash. RP is terminating service on competitive but desirable routes. The squeeze is being put on them by Southwest, Airtran, United, and Delta in DEN & MKE. RP keeps screwing over too many people. They'll get what's coming to them.
 
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Oh, and just in case Repukelick does buy Eagle, isn't the agreed upon merging of seniority lists between pilot groups of similar airlines a DOH merger? And unlike the AW and US merger, neither airline has anybody furloughed so it should be quite simple. The Eagle pilots are probably hoping this merger happens as over half of their FO's would become CA's and over half of RJET CA's become FO's. Or will they do what they did to the Midwest pilots and put them all out on the street, which I'm still scratching my head about as to not only the legality of it but the MORALITY of it!

even if this long shot came to be..no eagle FOs would be able to displace a single RAH Captain, regarldess of longevity.
 
He's right! He might aswell be flying for free with what Republic flies him/her and his/her coworkers to fly the 190. How can other airlines compete with that?

RP's days are numbered. The quarterly report shows an extremely low amount of cash. RP is terminating service on competitive but desirable routes. The squeeze is being put on them by Southwest, Airtran, United, and Delta in DEN & MKE. RP keeps screwing over too many people. They'll get what's coming to them.

Hey look, a Skywest guy who accepted 50 seat pay to fly 70 seat jets is throwing stones at Republic...
 
In your wet dreams.. Republic has been around for a long time, and will be around for much longer. MOST companies that begin or start a new venture lose lots of cash for many years. Profitability takes years as up-front costs and investments are required. Heck, Facebook has been around for many years and just finally turned just made a profit.

The only thing that will not exist is probably a quarter of these 50 seat aircraft. The market is shedding those as fast as possible as they are completely undesirable by the Majors and passengers.

Study the market and business fields before making such shallow uneducated conclusions.

Here's my business analysis:

Republic sucks and so does 170/190 dbag pilot. You guys sure do keep that thing updated don't you, that way when you post on here we all cower in your awesomeness.

Have fun flying in your fantasy mainline aircraft. Many of us cannot wait to see you standing in the unemployment Line right behind every Midwest, Lynx, and soon to be Frontier pilot you have put out of work.
 
I could only imagine if some of you were to act out at work the way you act out and put on a high school show on here. You'd all have pink slips. Oh well, you all may continue entertaining me now...............
 

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