Regional guys -- Turbulance

[CX880]

How long did it take you to get use to turbulance in a jet. bump makes the plane rattle.

I guess I am not 100% comfortable with moderate chop turbulance in a jet yet.

I don't know what to do.

I guess my fear is that the autopilot will kick off, nosedive or some sh|t lol.

Tips, advice?

Christ, and this is coming from a professional airline pilot. Let me guess your one of those 300 hour wonders that made it to the airlines? Thank god probably not many pax read these boards. I suggest you get off the plane and enroll in a fear of turbulence class at the local FBO.

 

[ceo_of_the_sofa]

Hey, guys, relax a bit on the "positive" comments, mmmmk?

 

[snap145]

Oh that's nice...give up and just dump it on the guy next to you without warning. Those type of situations happen too quickly to be pulling that stuff. It's an airplane, fly the dang thing.

easy there stallion...go ahead and pop another valium....IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!

 

[PunchTheClown]

Just make sure your not holding a hot beverage and watch your speed. These things can take a beating. Also you might want to try "seat surfing."

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Well see...the problem here with all these new pilots is that Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't do a very good job of simulating turbulence. I think once Microsoft get's that figured out we will have better professional pilot job candidates. Until then, actual piloting experience will have to suffice.

Cheers!

Funny, this proves my point. Guess he forgot to mention his fear of turbulence in this article, or on being the youngest member of flightinfo.com too:

http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/BUSINESS/607190328/1046

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

It's just the motion in the ocean, baby!

 

[blott]

Hey D-Bean...

don't let those "tuff guys" get to ya. They just haven't been there yet, or are just to stupid to get it, probably a little of both.

The first month I was employed as an "airline pilot" i was paired up with Capt. Psycho. No joke. I didn't know shi_t. i looked up to the capt. and figured they knew what they were doing. I was wrong. No matter what i said, the Capt. did the opposite just so he would'nt agree with me. Dispatch called and said they wanted to cancel a flight- the cap looked at the radar and asked me what I thought. I said "If we go, we are gonna die". Capt. said "I talked to the crew and we'll go". (It was spring and there was a squall line from Minnesota to texas.-a nasty one) So, there we were, looking for a place in the line to cross. there wasn't one, (today I would have turned around and landed...) but we continued on. I kept switching the radar on smaller and smaller range as we got closer. Well we slowed the plane down to rough penetration speed, something like 170K ?(SF3). Just before we entered the line, the buzzer was going off-overspeed-that's @250. We were way over that. Imagine a +100 or so outdraft... The auto pilot was on for this whole adventure. Plane is trying to hold altitude, but with +100 it tends to climb. (Saab ap is no joke) Ap trying to hold altitude so it pitches down = more speed. Capt. pulles "power levers" or whatever you want to call them. Well, we get inside the storm, MAJOR down draft, like we got hit with a sledge hammer. Now we are below selected altitude with power at idle...plane pitches up. (this all was in slow motion now) I look as AS 140 and decresing, pitch going past 25 up... I start yelling airspeed, airspeed... Fire wall the power levers...Long story short...(not really) A lot O sh_t went on after that...but we came thru the other side. (I actually made peace with the world during it). No damage to the AC except some of the patches on the de-icing boots were partially peeled off from the initial gust.

Point being, the AC can take alot more than you would believe-not that you should ever put yourself in that condition.

That being said, it was in a SAAB(tank), I don't think the EMB would have made it thru as well. SF3 has straight wing, and is slow, compared to to EMB with it's swept wing...

Next comes the wake. On down wind, @10K AC rolled 70 and pitched down 20-25. No warning. Most guys say they have hit wake, bounced around a little, and that was the extent of it. That does happen alot, not to bad, but respect the wake.

Ever Been sitting at the end of the runway, waiting to take off, and had a Ac land and then your plane shakes as some planes wake hit's you? I had just rotated and hit the wake of the AC that departed before me, was a few feet off the ground, my plane actually was pushed back down on the runway, guess that's why my SOP says gear up at 35 feet...

And then there is CAT.

flying along at FL270. Got my seat back, reading some "company approved materials". Bounce bounce, BOOM, don't really know what happened, it was so sudden. Temporary loss of control. Asked Center if there were any AC near me, nope. Out of no where. Now I know why all the knobs on the overhead are rounded off, had seat belt and shoulder harness fastened, but still hit overhead panel. Had blue juice in ceiling of lav too, not to mention all the drinks in the cabin dripping off the ceiling.

Not ment to scare you, just letting you know a little of what you will probably encounter some day. And thru all this the AC held up.

Now getting back to you're question about turbulence. (SP?) just giving you a little backround for credibility.

The ERJ has a stiff wing, which means you feel all the bumps. The best ride is sitting over the wing. sitting up front, you have the longest lever arm-which means you get the worst ride overall.

Now I've got a few problems with the autopilot in this ac. In certain situations it can cause a problem. It seems that in certain situations the ap is to slow to react. Meaning that it tries to react, but ends up amplifying the pitch inputs-result, pitch oscillates a little, but keeps going till its out of control. It feels like you are driving along a gravel road with a continous washboard, but just keeps getting worse and worse. solution. Just hold the yoke, no need to TCS it.

Also, when you get into the rough stuff, the ap, seems to over correct, making the ride worse. (pitch wise) once again, just click it off for a few...

As far as the AP kicking off, and leaving you nose down. No worries here. If it does kick off, (It happens) you got to remember the ac is hauling a_ss. there is no way it can suddenly just pitch down (think about it). roll, yeah, maybe, but not from cat.(roll no big deal, just roll out) Just ask yourself, how many AC burn in from turb? You have to really fu_k up to do that....

enough for now...

B

 

[Dodge4SRT]

You got to be kidding me. I bet you the passengers don't even worry about it as much as half the pilots seem to here. Where the hell did you guys learn to fly, honestly?

 

[OldManPilot]

You know...there's old pilot's and gold pil....wait....theres old pilot's and sold pilo....no, no...there's old pilot's and.....awww hell...theres just alot of old pilots.

W

Hey, I resemble that remark!

 

[Dodge4SRT]

I just can't believe that these pilots are sitting in the front of an aircraft afraid of the plane getting bumped around. What the heck happens when a problem occurs, and my life depends on you, if you can't even handle a few bumps let alone an issue.