Regional Captian Douchebag Syndrome-RCDS

[CA1900]

Decent planning really matters when there are bad guys at the end of the descent...

Ah, so you've flown into White Plains, NY, and seen the prison work release program that runs the ramp? :uzi:



Oh, wait, you said Military...

 

[KaptainKarl]

A damn epidemic at Mesaba. "If you ain't from UND, you can't fly." - XJ Douchebag supreme!!!

Oh Yeah, I've witnessed more of those guys miss crossings than I can count. Nope, I don't say a thing. I just laugh my a$$ off. Its his name on the release. If we're a crew, then treat me as such.

 

[General Lee]

At least we allow unlimited jumpseats. hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Cass should be online soon.

Mookie

So do we, to all SkyWest pilots(one or two in the cockpit, and then open seats in back for the rest)........And Southwest pilots. We tried with AA, but they weren't interested I guess.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Gee. how long ago did Delta start letting anybody in the actual Jump? How quickly we forget. More drivel from the Lee. How about you never ask me for a ride and I will never ask you. What a tool!

Since 1996.(the year I got on with DL) And, I don't need a ride from you. I live in Mecca, with plenty of flights EVERYWHERE. SEE YA.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[dougal28]

Avioding those really senior guys in open time I have found to be easiest way of not finding these types. I have found the new CA's the best to fly with hence the best crm. I think these guys with the sydrome add to a unsafe operation b/c of the friction in the cockpit. What misery being stuck with a fricking egotistical dork for four days. Unfortunatly this will always be a problem due to the nature of the job. It is just a job it doesn't mean anything, don't take it home, don't brag about it, and certainly don't let it turn you into a pain in the A$S.

 

[turbodriver]

You may Have RCDS-Regional Captain Douchebag Syndrome if these situations apply to you—

If you are constantly messing with the flight control panel…when you are NON-flying pilot-you may have RCDS

If you are constantly doing the FO’s flows- even one that consist of 2 switches.-you may have RCDS

If your crew upon reaching the overnight is constantly “tired” “not hungry” or “going to catch up on my F.O.M. reading tonight” instead of going out and having a few beers with you”-you may have RCDS

If when ATC calls your call sign you verbally announce everything that the FO is to reply back. Just in case the FO doesn’t know what it means when ATC asks “hows the ride at 350?” Thanks for the help capt.—you do have RCDS

If you have said more than once on a trip, “hey, crack the boards were looking a little high” or “I think you better increase your rate of descent” Descent planning isn’t hard, the FO knows how to do it, probably better than you do and may have a lot more experience than you do, I don’t tell you how to fly unless its unsafe, so you should do the same. If I needed a flying style coach I would ask…..-you have RCDS

If there is a celebrity on board and you make 15 PA’s—while you are the flying pilot- you may have RCDS

If you are captain and don’t know how to program the FMS. And refuse to ask for help from the FO- you may have RCDS

If you annonce over the PA on the descent announcement that the FO is going to be landing the airplane today…..you may have RCDS (I actually heard this one the other day!!)

If you want to brief the approach 250 miles out, “just to get it done with” – you may have RCDS.

If in the pre-flight pre-trip briefing you say “I fly by the book or im laid back”- nobody flies 100 % by the book and if you are laid back, you don’t need to say it, it will take care of itself.- you may have RCDS.

If you try to get the fat FA drunk every night and still couldn’t score with her or any other girl on the face of the earth- you might have RCDS

Remedies for RCDS—realize that your crew members are professionals and have had the same training you have, you don’t need to tell them what to do every 5 seconds like they are 3 years old, you are not the almighty ruler of the crew. If you do this your crew doesn’t like you and doesn’t want to be around you. They don’t respect you. The company has forced me to hang around you for the next 4 days, Its not my decision. Just show your crew some respect and you will be respected back. And fly when its your turn to FLY and run the radios when its your turn to run the radios.

Thank you. There's a few at my company in particular (who shall remian nameless) who are exactly like this. I do whatever I can to avoid them.

amem brother. i love the "ok lets call for taxi" after the push......
no sh!t i thought we were gonna just sit here and block everybody

how bout the capt that while flying....get the atis, sets speeds, calls ops.....i know of more than one guy who does this....drives me nuts

I look at it like this, the more work he does, the less that I have to do. If he wants to do both our jobs combined becasue he doesn't trust me to make initial calls to center and all I have to do it just show up, fly my legs and go home and he get's to lug all the paperwork around for four days, that's his bag.

 

[say again]

I love the HUGE Embry-Riddle rings!!!! Bling-Bling!!!:laugh:

 

[CitationLover]

Ah, so you've flown into White Plains, NY, and seen the prison work release program that runs the ramp? :uzi:



Oh, wait, you said Military...

they also like fueling the right wing first and then the left. i can't wait till an airplane tips over. at least twice we've had to ask them to fuel both wings at the same time or at least keep it within 300# of each other.

 

[ERfly]

In all fairness, I have had to ask FOs to call for taxi because they were just sitting there. Perhaps they have flown with some guys who do have RCDS and yell at them if they call for taxi on their own.

Bingo! I ask my Captains if they're ready before I call. I've been yelled at too many times at a previous airline.

 

[maddog805]

If you feel it necessary to quote the whole friggin' post, you're a douchebag.

 

[BigPappa]

Don't put up with Dorky Captains, just punch them in the teeth!:smash:

 

[Lear70]

Don't put up with Dorky Captains, just punch them in the teeth!:smash:

Get the F/A to do it... it's funnier and lasts a lot longer since every time they walk through the crew room people start snickering...

 

[BOHICAgain]

u might also have RCDS if you ask ur FO anything and double check it yourself. Trust your FO. We aint stupid as to get the ATIS Freq. wrong.

Also if the captain, while taxing, treats it like a 777 and goes past the runway centerline only to bring it back using the tiller

AND to finish off you might have RCDS if u never..never allow the FO to do an engine start. (unless its company proc.)

 

[HAZ-MAT]

You guys knock eachother for poor landings?? The harder the better

 

[shamrock]

The "this is the only way to do this" guy -- when there are 10 different ways to do it correctly -- is a real pain in the neck to work with, no question. As I said, I think I've flown with him, or at least his clone. He works for CommutAir and is super-senior in CLE. Shamrock, if he's reading this, will know exactly who I'm talking about! He's the guy who yelled at me years ago for touching "his" battery switch to turn the cabin lights on, while he was inside getting coffee.

He's super-senior because everybody in the aviation business has heard about him. He can't get another job.

The day after my first trip with Captain Douchebag I passed a guy doing some carpentry work while walking from my hotel to the mall in PWM. To this day I can still remember thinking to myself, "That might not be too bad a job to have, maybe I could do that instead".

I was only a month into my airline career and flying with that d1ckhead had me seriously questioning my career choice.

 

[flighter]

I find the older guys are actually better to fly with than the young bucks. They tend to be overtly paranoid, checking and re-checking everything you do.

 

[FR8mastr]

I keep reading about how terrible most captains are and how if it were not for you (the FO) the flight would never get off the ground, or if it did it would never be safe. So if this is the true and in most cases the FO is the only one qualified and not a Dbag, what happens to you when you upgrade?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

No one who has served in the left seat would make some of the statements that the F/O's here are making. Sure there are bad Captains out there, but when it is your name on the release, and your professional A$$ on the line, things look very very different from the left. I found myself checking and worrying about crap that I didn't even know existed when I was in the right seat.

Wait till these guys upgrade, most will probably wish they could come back and remove a lot of what they posted on this thread.

 

[xjcaptain]

No one who has served in the left seat would make some of the statements that the F/O's here are making. Sure there are bad Captains out there, but when it is your name on the release, and your professional A$$ on the line, things look very very different from the left. I found myself checking and worrying about crap that I didn't even know existed when I was in the right seat.

Wait till these guys upgrade, most will probably wish they could come back and remove a lot of what they posted on this thread.

Wow, I thought that I was the only one who seemed to notice that most of the comments were from FO's who by their tone show that they might still have a lot to learn. Some of these RDBC'S might actually be a resource to keep them from losing their tickets not to mention their lives.
Amazing how moving a few feet to the left can totally change one's perspective. Looking back on my experience, there were most definatly times that I was basically too stupid to be scared and didn't fully understand the consequences of some of the decisions that were being made at the time. As an FO you just have to try to get past some of the bad habbits that we all have (captains & FO's alike) and try to take away only the positive. I'm guessing even the biggest RDBC does at least something right.....in your opinion.

 

[Sam Snead]

The key is diplomacy - between both pilots!

After I upgraded, I just tried to remember all the things that the grumpy captains did to me. Then I tried not to do them.

I hated being corrected on technique issues, like; whether you use the entire facility name instead of 'center' (or vice-versa), or you call the station 15 minutes out instead of ten minutes out, etc.

Also being corrected and the captain is wrong/innacurate/unknowledgeable. Something like making up little personal additons to regs and procedures.

Every Captain has preferences but they should be communicated in advance if possible, and diplomatically. I ask the FOs for a favor.

Let the FO handle the radio on the ground and when the captain is PF UNLESS SAFETY IS COMPROMISED!! Don't jump on their radio when they make a mistake or miss a call. Jeez!

The WORST was being corrected with "The AIM says to do so and so" when we regularly do other stuff (non-towered airport pattern ops, shortening radio calls when it's busy, etc) that flies in the face of the AIM. Argg!

In a nutshell, nobody likes to feel 'ridden' or having their chops busted.

 

[jumppilot]

things look very very different from the left. I found myself checking and worrying about crap that I didn't even know existed when I was in the right seat.

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Bingo.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

Wait till these guys upgrade, most will probably wish they could come back and remove a lot of what they posted on this thread.

Exactly!

 

[Mookie]

FO to me during my brief..."My dad did is ..., I've done ...I have tons of experience doing ..., My upgrade should be in about six months...blah. blah. blah."

Me thinking I'm with Chuck Yeagers illigitimate son..."Alright...your leg."

Fo to me after shooting an approach which wasn't even CLOSE to minimums."Goddam....that was tight. I didn't think we'd get in...Wow....that was AWESOME..."

oooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy.....

Like the guys above said...RCDS starts early before the move to the left seat.

(By the way, I'm DYING to fly in the right seat for General Lee).
Mookie

 

[Deerkiller]

FO to me during my brief..."My dad did is ..., I've done ...I have tons of experience doing ..., My upgrade should be in about six months...blah. blah. blah."

Me thinking I'm with Chuck Yeagers illigitimate son..."Alright...your leg."

Fo to me after shooting an approach which wasn't even CLOSE to minimums."Goddam....that was tight. I didn't think we'd get in...Wow....that was AWESOME..."

oooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy.....

Like the guys above said...RCDS starts early before the move to the left seat.

(By the way, I'm DYING to fly in the right seat for General Lee).
Mookie

yeah, so what...probably the best(read: unstable, out of trim, triple-bounce) landing you've ever seen!!!!!

oh by the way let's not forget three chip-ins in one round!!!

please pass the maxim, my nap is over.

 

[low-key]

Maybe this is just a case of FODS, First Officer Douchebag Syndrome.

Either way, if youre a CA or an FO and someone does something dumb, speak up.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

BusDriver12.... feel better? Why not grow some and deal with the capt directly instead of posting here.....

I'm not saying you don't have points, but you also don't have the social skills to deal directly with your fellow pilot.


FO are physical pilots. They have checklist to run, data to input and switches to move.

Capts. are in thier heads. The reason why they don't respond right away to your self initiated check list is becuase they are thinking about the flight 20 minutes from now and what will need to be done.....

Within the flight deck, FOs are 'labor' and Capts are 'management.'



Why don't you wait till you logged at least 500 PIC before you post something you know nothing about and don't have the guts to say face to face.... Rather than being an antagonistic whiney task monkey, why don't you try being the best FO you can, then when its your turn, you'll find upgrade isn't so bad....

Rant over...

 

[Mookie]

Deer Killer,

3 bounces for a bra, ain't bad.

Three chip ins and you still shot 100!!! (although the one left handed was pretty pimp.)

Shouldn't you be engaging Vnav or something? I'm sure you have plenty of time to read maxim now at Mainline.

Mookie

 

[noonan]

Listening to these Fo's whine hold about the same weight as the passenger who says "Do you know how often I fly?"

Get in the left seat, then we'll talk.

 

[Captain Overs]

No one who has served in the left seat would make some of the statements that the F/O's here are making. Sure there are bad Captains out there, but when it is your name on the release, and your professional A$$ on the line, things look very very different from the left. I found myself checking and worrying about crap that I didn't even know existed when I was in the right seat.

Wait till these guys upgrade, most will probably wish they could come back and remove a lot of what they posted on this thread.

RCDS still exists in most of these FO's. But like some diseases they are just a carrier and it hasn't manifested itself yet. You can tell who these guys are. They try to lead the CA to do things that aren't in good judgement. When the CA tells them that it's not allowed they reply with "This CA last week I flew with did it."

 

[belchfire]

As I recall the hardest thing about being
a FO was being a good guy and adjusting
to the different CA's management style like
FO's are supposed to do...

The toughest thing about being a CA?

Flying with an FO that thinks another minute
in the right seat is a waste of his time. They
seem to have the most to learn! And then
there's the one that calls for taxi and starts
reading the afterstart check (without it being
called for or asking if I want-it per the book) and misses the taxi clearance! That, my friends is classic!

Someday all y'all might upgrade and see what
I'm talking about...

There are tools in both seats. Tools that work
gates, maintenance, at burger king, heck, it's
an epidemic! Grow up and whine about
something useful-like the cost of home
heating oil!

Maybe you should start a tool watch page
so we can see who spots the biggest jerk
of the day!