Regional airlines are doomed!

[Raoul Duke]

you guys are missing the point. All this will do is result in someone forming NewCo so that they can start the seniroty list over. It will not result in the regional industry going away.

 

[BrickTop]

Scope will absolutely not relax. I'd bet everything in my 401K, my savings, and investments on that- the ship has sailed. Nobody is going to relax scope to facilitate larger airframes at the regional level.

Very misinformed. AMR "WILL" most certainly see scope relaxed.

 

[BrickTop]

Like it or Not the regional model is necessary. FEED is not an "option" it is a requirement. Mainline carriers cannot justify a(losing customers from small markets by cutting frequency, b) afford to give up markets to start-up operators or LCC's by cutting regional service, or c)expect to fill large wide body aircraft without feed. Scope relax will be HARD sought after to ensure profitable regional service.

 

[sunlitpath]

This is old news

 

[altimaklr]

The regional model is now a failed business model. Fuel prices have increased to the point that most flights are not making money. Mainline labor costs have been slashed, while regional costs have risen. It's cheaper to pay 1x A320 crew than 2x Skywest crews, and fuel burn/overhead cost is much lower. Using regional feed is no longer viable except on some high profit, low demand routes... most routes don't meet those two qualifications.

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

The regional model is now a failed business model. Fuel prices have increased to the point that most flights are not making money. Mainline labor costs have been slashed, while regional costs have risen. It's cheaper to pay 1x A320 crew than 2x Skywest crews, and fuel burn/overhead cost is much lower. Using regional feed is no longer viable except on some high profit, low demand routes... most routes don't meet those two qualifications.

So instead of diversifying our retirement portfolios, we should put all of our eggs into one basket?

 

[Fubijaakr]

1. "Regional" jets can't pay for themselves.
2. Replace "regional" jets with mainline jets with less frequency.
3. Airspace crowding issues are reduced.

This isn't rocket science. Cities like Boise don't need six round trips a day to hub airports. Two on mainline jets would suffice. The folks who choose to live in places like Boise will just have to adjust.

 

[enuffalready]

1. "Regional" jets can't pay for themselves.
2. Replace "regional" jets with mainline jets with less frequency.
3. Airspace crowding issues are reduced.

This isn't rocket science. Cities like Boise don't need six round trips a day to hub airports. Two on mainline jets would suffice. The folks who choose to live in places like Boise will just have to adjust.

yup... those pesky customers ....

 

[Fubijaakr]

yup... those pesky customers ....

They can adjust...or they can drive to SLC. Give 'em an early morning A320/737 and an early afternoon one. Then they can connect to get to where they're going. A noon inbound and and evening inbound RONing the airplane there for the morning launch.

Dump the six or eight roundtrip RJs.

People are flexible...when they're required to be.

 

[enuffalready]

They can adjust...or they can drive to SLC. Give 'em an early morning A320/737 and an early afternoon one. Then they can connect to get to where they're going. A noon inbound and and evening inbound RONing the airplane there for the morning launch.

Dump the six or eight roundtrip RJs.

People are flexible...when they're required to be.

been in the industry for 15 years...always enjoying listening to pilots in their infinite wisdom instructing their customers to adjust...