Refineries

[macfly]

There is a massive run on gas in west Ga. Our local gas stations are PACKED. It looks like a scene from a movie. And so it begins.

 

[Dangerkitty]

There is a massive run on gas in west Ga. Our local gas stations are PACKED. It looks like a scene from a movie. And so it begins.

Same scene in Alabama. A family friend called to tell us to fill up as quickly as we could. He said that gas would be gone by tommorrow. Word must have spread quickly because 20 minutes later I was at the gas station and the place was packed. Had an officer there to keep the peace.

 

[SouthTex]

Maybe now the liberals and enviro-nazis will wake up and realize the need for energy reform (no new refineries in 25+ years) instead of silly protests while filling up their micro-busses and suburban assault vehicles.

Uh, you can have all of the oil in the world, but without any refining capacity you're SOL. With about 20 percent of our refinery capacity currently down, demand will surely outstrip supply to the point where you'll see fuel shortages, a la early 1970s.

 

[wrxpilot]

Fox news just showed a BP station in Atlanta charging $5.40/gal!!

 

[NuGuy]

There is a massive run on gas in west Ga. Our local gas stations are PACKED. It looks like a scene from a movie. And so it begins.

Heyas Mac and others,

I understand that a significant portion of gasoline and jet fuel gets to ATL by the MS pipeline, which is now out of service.

There are VERY few refiners of AVGAS in the US. But the critical component of AVGAS, which is the lead additive, is only made at ONE place in the entire word...a production facility in England. AOPA pointed this out a while ago, and basically said that "we're one plant shutdown away from having NO AVGAS".

Jet fuel was $2.20 on the spot market today. Up from $1.85.

Nu

 

[Dodge]

PurpleinMEM said it all. You can thank all the hippies and environmental wackos for the lack of oil and the extremely high prices. No new refineries built in 30 years.

Yeah, liberals are the smart ones. They definately know what is best.

 

[dash8driver]

As stated before, plenty of crude supply, not enough refining capacity.

Just my 2 cents worth...

if there is plenty of crude, why is the price of it so high?

this problem is twofold.. the rest of the world's demand is making crude scarce therefore higher priced, and the lack of refining capacity is only pushing it up even more.

 

[atrdriver]

if there is plenty of crude, why is the price of it so high?

this problem is twofold.. the rest of the world's demand is making crude scarce therefore higher priced, and the lack of refining capacity is only pushing it up even more.

The lack of refining capacity is our current biggest problem. Add to that the differences in gas that they must put out for all the EPA laws and we really ahve a problem. It's just amazing that the tree hugger crowd has kept a new refinery from being built for 30 years. That's something that needs to be changed, and yesterday.

 

[NuGuy]

The lack of refining capacity is our current biggest problem. Add to that the differences in gas that they must put out for all the EPA laws and we really ahve a problem. It's just amazing that the tree hugger crowd has kept a new refinery from being built for 30 years. That's something that needs to be changed, and yesterday.

ATR,

Funny you mention that. You are correct in saying that there are litterally dozens of gas formulations that oil companies must produce to comply with the various EPA restrictions in different locations.

Today, the EPA issued a moratorium on all such restrictions in a effort to easy supply issues. They also dialed back sulfer content restrictions on diesel fuel.

Nu

 

[atrdriver]

ATR,

Funny you mention that. You are correct in saying that there are litterally dozens of gas formulations that oil companies must produce to comply with the various EPA restrictions in different locations.

Today, the EPA issued a moratorium on all such restrictions in a effort to easy supply issues. They also dialed back sulfer content restrictions on diesel fuel.

Nu

Too bad it took this to get it done.