Recent ERAU grads (or current students) question

[The_Russian]

You can blame all of this on the Regional Jet.

 

[na265]

No, I think you can blame it on PFT jerks who will pay even more money to go fly in a big King Air with things hanging off it! Oh, I forgot, they get to put on uniforms and act like they are pilots. Purchase Pilot Wings!

 

[The_Russian]

No, I think you can blame it on PFT jerks who will pay even more money to go fly in a big King Air with things hanging off it! Oh, I forgot, they get to put on uniforms and act like they are pilots. Purchase Pilot Wings!

Actually that has nothing to do with the reason Riddle is so expensive. Are you sure of what you are saying? Because you obviously have no idea what PFT is. Nor, do you know any people from my airline because 99% of them aren't "jerks".

If you are going to direct something to me, say it to my face. I will be glad to meet you when you fly in. If you can make an statement such as that, then say it behind your true identity.

 

[na265]

Grow up!

 

[The_Russian]

Is that all you can say after your post? Take a look at yourself, brotha.

 

[na265]

You mean after you got hammered in your post about Girl Scout cookies you still don't get it? When I see myself, I can say I worked my tail off to be where I am. I will fly my 300 hrs this year, bring in my 6 figures and know that I never had to pay to play Pro Pilot Wannabe! And, BTW On other avaition websites, there are many people there who know who I am. You can even see where I live! But wait, there are professional pilots over there in every sense of the word! I don't think you would do well "over there!"

 

[The_Russian]

You mean after you got hammered in your post about Girl Scout cookies you still don't get it? When I see myself, I can say I worked my tail off to be where I am. I will fly my 300 hrs this year, bring in my 6 figures and know that I never had to pay to play Pro Pilot Wannabe! And, BTW On other avaition websites, there are many people there who know who I am. You can even see where I live! But wait, there are professional pilots over there in every sense of the word! I don't think you would do well "over there!"

Yeah, ok. And you are telling me to grow up? Sounds like you have some personal issues.

BTW I have lost bigger arguments that the one you mentioned. Or, did you just want to say Girl Scout because it makes you think of 9 year olds? Take that to "grown up land".

 

[na265]

Don't know where you got personal issues out of that one. Professional Pilots do not pay an "airline" to sit in the seat. They are paid by said airline. Looks like there are some bottom feeder "airlines" where you can go make 17k/yr and pay off that massive loan you have to pull the gear and talk on the radio.

 

[The_Russian]

Don't know where you got personal issues out of that one. Professional Pilots do not pay an "airline" to sit in the seat. They are paid by said airline. Looks like there are some bottom feeder "airlines" where you can go make 17k/yr and pay off that massive loan you have to pull the gear and talk on the radio.

You angry about something there buddy?

Professional pilots shouldn't be judging anyone on any level of professionalism. You know nothing about me. You have no right to assume anything about me or my career. Nor do you have the right to assume about anyone at my airline. Move along.

 

[g-code]

I go to an extended-campus location and fly at a local flight school.....Do I at least get a pass?

 

[look4traffic]

I will say that the GIA pilots I have met were for the most part humble and just trying to make it as pilots just like the rest of us... (not that I agree with the program) but I don't think they as a whole should be called jerks...ignorant maybe or maybe just rich

 

[The_Russian]

I will say that the GIA pilots I have met were for the most part humble and just trying to make it as pilots just like the rest of us... (not that I agree with the program) but I don't think they as a whole should be called jerks...ignorant maybe or maybe just rich

90% of our pilots took out loans or are prior military.

 

[Lazy8]

the bottom line is....

So long as pilots are willing to line-up at the door for poverty level income and/or pay an employer to work then we'll all be seen as commodities instead of professionals. Why take on the responsibilities and duties of a professional while being paid as a commodity? At the majors level you see less of this. That's why pilots continue to live with it and accept it as just part of the path to a six-digit career. There's no guarantee folks.

Flight training, cost of living, and intrest rates aren't getting any cheaper yet regional-level pay, overall, isn't changing. The only people that can change that are the ones reading this post.

thoughts?

 

[Charlie_Foxtrot]

You mean after you got hammered in your post about Girl Scout cookies you still don't get it? When I see myself, I can say I worked my tail off to be where I am. I will fly my 300 hrs this year, bring in my 6 figures and know that I never had to pay to play Pro Pilot Wannabe! And, BTW On other avaition websites, there are many people there who know who I am. You can even see where I live! But wait, there are professional pilots over there in every sense of the word! I don't think you would do well "over there!"

.........Hmmmmmmm........I've seen this before!!

 

[nerdpilot]

How do you get a Riddle graduate off your porch???? Pay for the pizza

 

[gkrangers]

Its around $750 credit hour at the Daytona campus.

Tuition plus health, parking, technology fees, etc is about $12,000 for the average 15 credit semester.

Funny thing about Gulfstream...they use Facebook to advertise the PFJ program to Riddle students.

 

[Metro752]

Its around $750 credit hour at the Daytona campus.

Tuition plus health, parking, technology fees, etc is about $12,000 for the average 15 credit semester.

Funny thing about Gulfstream...they use Facebook to advertise the PFJ program to Riddle students.

I seen a bunch of Delta Connection guys for the first time in REAL LIFE. They were wearing these uniforms and for a second I thought maybe they flew the King Air at the FBO I was checking out. After they walked past me, with their RayBans on indoors, gelled hair, and spiffy uniforms, they were talking about spins in a Cessna. Pretty loud and obnoxious too. As I was going back out to my car, they were standing outside the little DCA office. I laughed to myself a weee bit more. That made my morning.

If you boys are reading this, :cartman::smash:

 

[gkrangers]

I seen a bunch of Delta Connection guys for the first time in REAL LIFE. They were wearing these uniforms and for a second I thought maybe they flew the King Air at the FBO I was checking out. After they walked past me, with their RayBans on indoors, gelled hair, and spiffy uniforms, they were talking about spins in a Cessna. Pretty loud and obnoxious too. As I was going back out to my car, they were standing outside the little DCA office. I laughed to myself a weee bit more. That made my morning.

If you boys are reading this, :cartman::smash:

Hey, this is a Riddle bashing thread, not a DCA bashing thread; get it right!

 

[Metro752]

Hey, this is a Riddle bashing thread, not a DCA bashing thread; get it right!

OOps! :uzi: DCA

 

[epic!]

the online program is significantly cheaper. less than $200 per credit hour. do your training through a local fbo

 

[Going2Baja]

I want to say I remember $900 a class in 1985 and just a little over a grand in 2003. From what I saw - I don't think that their flight training is anything extra special other than the networking one can do while there. The class were average and the prof's were just "ok." But what I can say is that interviewers DO take notice to an ERAU degree. It doesn't matter if it's FL or AZ or even remote - just as long as it said ERAU on the top.

I did it the fastest and cheapest way I could. All the flying outside of ERAU and I checked w/ my local colleges and Univ's to see what classes would transfer for the Pro Aero Degree. I think the ERAU catalog states that the last 30 units must be taken at ERAU and I did this in a Spring and Summer A. All done w/ a minor in Bix for $9k.

I ahve noticed that all the interns at my airline are either from ERAU or UND. This must say something....

Baja.

 

[siucavflight]

Serious question for you guys, and not looking for anyone to start a flame war. What made you choose to go to Riddle. I looked there when I started College in 98, I chose Southern Illinois, all four years, ratings, room and board, two degrees cost me just a little over 40K, got out instructed, now work at Eagle along side a lot of Riddle guys who spent triple what I did and we are doing the same job, they all seem like good guys, and good pilots, but no better then anyone else. What is the attraction to Riddle?

 

[Metro752]

Serious question for you guys, and not looking for anyone to start a flame war. What made you choose to go to Riddle. I looked there when I started College in 98, I chose Southern Illinois, all four years, ratings, room and board, two degrees cost me just a little over 40K, got out instructed, now work at Eagle along side a lot of Riddle guys who spent triple what I did and we are doing the same job, they all seem like good guys, and good pilots, but no better then anyone else. What is the attraction to Riddle?

All the hot babes in Daytona Beach!

 

[FDAFCFI]

I just want to post this for any young buck out there checking to see if ERAU is what they should be doing with their money.

I never went this route nor ever wanted to. In fact, as an athlete on scholarship I never sat in my dorm room pining to fly a shiny jet. Flying magazine was filled with sportys and King ads back in the early 90s, not the glossy ads today that have two slack tooth grin tools looking seductively to get you to empty your wallet at their beloved institution. Life is so much sweeter when you've sampled a lot of buffet lines. When you pigeon-hole yourself into "I only know pilot stuff" you're really gonna be sorry when you're 65. If you take care of yourself you're still going to have 40-50 years of life past that. That's a lot of time to be sitting on your hands with no skills to think of past how to weight and balance a c150...or a B747...it makes no difference what friggin' airplane it is.

I'm not saying that ERAU is something to stay away from, I'm saying that if you want a separate college experience that allows you to fly, drink beer and fornicate, go to actual Div I football games and actually grow and mature on a totally deeper level, then maybe ERAU is not your choice.

Everyone expects a gift at the end of their Riddle experience. Is that what you are expecting...a job offer? the epaulets? women swooning over your mirrored RayBans as you strut into the bar to order a Michelob Ultra reeking of AXE? Thanks to Leo DiCaprio for fortifying the myth.

Some of the best instructors are found at no name hole in the walls. My commercial instructor was a 67 year old former Blue Angel who flew A-4s with his head completely out of the cockpit. Taught me skills I use today. He was $35 an hour!

Only you can decide what's best for you. The "easy" way ain't always the best. Pilot farms delude you into thinking its so easy to PFT and then get the handshake for the job. Our HR person says it makes no difference where the hell you went to school...its the person sitting in front of them, the personality, the life experiences, that makes them say yes or no.

Good luck in your endeavors.