Quick Flight Following Question

[UA-RESURRECTED]

When they "hand you off" to another approach control facility, and instruct you to contact them, what exactly are you supposed to say? Does the new facility already know your altitude, position, xpndr code, and intended destination? Or is none of that stuff handed off, and you must give all this information in the initial call-up?

Thanks

 

[VNugget]

"With you."

 

[NW_Pilot]

I call them By their name XXX center or approach say my Reg. # & My Altitude! That’s it for VFR Flight Following.

 

[SPilot]

I think the AIM pretty much says you should state altitude.

"with you" is not FAA phraseology, and almost not used except in certain training areas in Florida.

From the AIM:

4-2-3. Contact Procedures
a. Initial Contact.
1. The terms initial contact or initial callup means the first radio call you make to a given facility or the first call to a different controller or FSS specialist within a facility. Use the following format:
(a) Name of the facility being called;
(b) Your full aircraft identification as filed in the flight plan or as discussed in paragraph 4-2-4, Aircraft Call Signs;
(c) When operating on an airport surface, state your position.
(d) The type of message to follow or your request if it is short; and
(e) The word "Over" if required.

...

3. If radio reception is reasonably assured, inclusion of your request, your position or altitude, and the phrase "(ATIS) Information Charlie received" in the initial contact helps decrease radio frequency congestion. Use discretion; do not overload the controller with information unneeded or superfluous. If you do not get a response from the ground station, recheck your radios or use another transmitter, but keep the next contact short.​

...

and about how to change frequency:

When instructed by ATC to change frequencies, select the new frequency as soon as possible unless instructed to make the change at a specific time, fix, or altitude. A delay in making the change could result in an untimely receipt of important information. If you are instructed to make the frequency change at a specific time, fix, or altitude, monitor the frequency you are on until reaching the specified time, fix, or altitudes unless instructed otherwise by ATC.​

 

[kf4amu]

He already accepted the handoff, knows where you are going and what altitude, xpndr, and position. The only think he needs is to verify your Mode C to make sure its within 300 feet of where you say you are. Check in, and tell him your altitude. Thats it.

I used to say "with you" because thats how I was taught, but I'm slowly weaning myself from it. With you was supposedly to let the controller know he should be expecting you. But not too many random airplanes say only their callsign and altitude on the frequency, so its kinda obvious he should be expecting you.

 

[Metro752]

"With you."

hahahahaa.......................yeah what NWPylot Said, "Huntsville Approach, Traumahawk 123 5000."

If yer lucky, he won't tell you, I KNOW WHAT FING ALTITUDE UR AT< I GOT RADAR....oh wait thats Chicago who does that

 

[midlifeflyer]

With you was supposedly to let the controller know he should be expecting you.

You're kidding. You mean someone actually went to the trouble to make up a justifciation for "uhhhhhh"?

Hey VNugget, isn't it interesting that some folks appear to have taken your post seriously?

 

[CalifDan]

"with you" is not FAA phraseology, and almost not used except in certain training areas in Florida.

Given that most of my flying is done in airspace about as far from Florida as one can get and still be in the continental US, I must be getting some kind of signal skip off the atmosphere out here in the west. I hear "with you" at least as often as I don't and I hear it from pilots flying large aircraft with many people inside as often as I don't.

I'm like kf4amu, I'm working at weaning myself. "Oakland Center, Duchess XXXXX, 7000". Works fine, but years of "with you" sometimes sneaks in.

 

[VNugget]

Hey VNugget, isn't it interesting that some folks appear to have taken your post seriously?

Everybody who knows me knows I'm all serious business only.

 

[unreal]

hahahahaa.......................yeah what NWPylot Said, "Huntsville Approach, Traumahawk 123 5000."

If yer lucky, he won't tell you, I KNOW WHAT FING ALTITUDE UR AT< I GOT RADAR....oh wait thats Chicago who does that

There are controllers that do that? They're required to get an altitude report from you to verify mode C readout.