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They blame the union when there is a furlough, and ALPA did nothing to fight it.

Same goes for the pension issues. US Airways gave away the pension, and ALPA allowed them to do it with very little fight or trade off. Suddenly the company was making profits and buying aircraft.

Nobody is blaming the union for action of the company, but rather for rolling over when we needed them the most.

Anyone that thinks a union will protect you fully during bankruptcy or after (God forbid) some terrorist flies an airplane into a building is kidding themselves. That said the committee structure at B6 is broken and is doomed to fail out of the gate. How many times to we have to repeat the process before some will learn?
 
They will shortly after the President signs the woefully misnamed "Employee Free Choice Act" where you only have to have 50% +1 sign cards instead of a secret ballot election.

The EFCA doesn't apply to RLA carriers, only to industries that fall under the NLRA.

Hopefully it will pass, and then later we can get it applied to RLA carriers also.
 
Hopefully it will pass? So coercion and strong arm tactics can dominate a workplace? I have no problem with workers VOTING to organize their place of employment. But a secret ballot is still every American's right whether to elect a President or to unionize. That should not change regardless of whether you believe in unions.
 
When a JetBlue pilot spends the time to read AirTran's current contract and the TA that was rejected they would ...

Nevermind a JetBlue pilot would never do that they would let managment read it to them.
 
Hopefully it will pass? So coercion and strong arm tactics can dominate a workplace? I have no problem with workers VOTING to organize their place of employment. But a secret ballot is still every American's right whether to elect a President or to unionize. That should not change regardless of whether you believe in unions.


What about the BoBs?
 
Not familiar with the reference....
 
Hopefully it will pass? So coercion and strong arm tactics can dominate a workplace?

Coercion and strong arm tactics already dominate the workplace....from management. The Band of Bluejuice (BoB) is a perfect example with their damned list of JBPA supporters. Nothing more than a thinly veiled threat. Yet you seem ok with that.

There's nothing wrong with using "card check." Everyone still gets to make their own choice, and all intimidation is outlawed by the EFCA.
 
It's not a choice when a union organizer is in your face asking (telling) you to sign a card. It is far easier for a union organizer to make a legal case against the company for intimidation than it is for an employee to protest a threat from a unionizer. Ask the five guys from Flight Options how much they collected in their civil case. I've flown with one of them.

This is not about the merits of a union (BTW I'm married to an ALPA member and will be paying union dues myself in the not-too-distant future). This is about whether the choice for either side is made in private by the employee. There is plenty wrong with card check.
 
It's not a choice when a union organizer is in your face asking (telling) you to sign a card.

Why? You don't have the balls to say "no?"

It is far easier for a union organizer to make a legal case against the company for intimidation

Actually, it's pretty much impossible. You can thank the Republicans for that anti-labor nonsense.

There is plenty wrong with card check.

Not really. But you'd better get used to it, anyway, because it's on the way. (thankfully)
 
The airline with the best contract, best pay, best retirement, best job security, best QOL and best fleet has an inhouse union. That should tell you something right there.
 

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