If you are ignoring me, then why are you replying to me?
tClown I dont know who wears a bigger bleeding heart about not getting hired by a major, you or Pocono Pilot. There are many people who are happy at their current employer, who dont have a desire or a need to fly for a major, you are not one of those people. Your jealousy is like a cancer based upon your constant sad replies on this board. It eats at you and make you strike out on this board. Get some help. You are showing a sad and pathetic side of yourself that many including myself dont care to see. your angered posts only serve to clog up this board with useless information.
Also, you dont seem to have a sound basis in facts and mostly you just try to stir the pot. At least the General, as abrasive as he can be brings some facts to back up his claims whereas yours is mostly hostilities wrapped around conjector.
That said I think you need a little review in what happened and how the pay cuts at Delta occurred. Delta management used a BK judge with a
Guillotine hanging over the pilots heads to force the issue. The pilots were close to striking a strike that was being called a "murder suicide" by most, including ananlysts outside the company. Even now after the fact a look at the cash in the bank at the time showed the company was about two weeks away from chapter seven liquidation. There was very little leverage to do anything at the time....ever try to negotiate with a gun to your head? Ultimately the stategy taken was "live and fight another day". Now that some profits are trickling back in and some leverage is coming back and Delta managment no longer has the advantage of a BK judge it is generally agreed the momentum needs to shift and the bar pushed back up.
Finaly the question remains, TO THOSE WHO WORK FOR ONE OF THE NAMED AIRLINES ABOVE what would you hope to achieve in work rule changes and pay increases during the posturing/negotiating coming as a result of managements desire for a merger?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10028262/
Delta warns of possible pilots strike
Beleaguered carrier says move would be 'murder-suicide'
ATLANTA - Delta Air Lines Inc. said Monday that if its pilots strike should their contract be rejected in bankruptcy court, it would be “murder-suicide” and in effect put the nation’s third-largest carrier out of business.
The comments by the Atlanta-based airline came two days before a U.S. Bankruptcy Court judge in New York will hold a hearing to discuss Delta’s request to reject its pilots’ collective bargaining agreement.
Delta said in the filing that if its motion is granted, it will impose $325 million in concessions it is seeking from its pilots.
Story continues below ↓ advertisement The Air Line Pilots Association, which represents Delta’s 6,000 pilots, has raised the prospect of a strike if the contract is rejected by the court, and it has scheduled a rally for Tuesday to defend the contract.
But in its filing Monday, Delta said a strike would be disastrous and, it maintains, illegal.
“ALPA devotes substantial space in its objection to the balance of the equities, using as its centerpiece a ’murder-suicide’ threat,” the airline wrote. “Deny the motion to reject, the court is told, or the association will call a post-rejection strike that will kill the company and eliminate every pilot job — indeed every Delta job.”
Delta argued in the filing that the Railway Labor Act prevents the pilots from striking.
“Even if the threat were realistic — even if Delta’s pilots seriously intended to put the company into liquidation rather than agree to needed concessions — the threat would be a hollow one,” the airline wrote.
A union spokesman did not immediately return a call Monday seeking comment.
Even though it believes it’s on solid legal ground, Delta said it can’t predict whether it will be able to prevent or stop a strike if its pilots choose to walk off the job if their contract is thrown out in bankruptcy court.
Delta said in its quarterly report to the Securities and Exchange Commission earlier Monday that it believes a strike by its pilots would be illegal, but at the same time it warned that it doesn’t know if it would be able to get a court order to stop it.
“In addition, if we or our affiliates are unable to reach agreement with any of our unionized work groups on future negotiations regarding terms of their collective bargaining agreements, or if additional segments of our work force become unionized, we may be subject to work interruptions or stoppages,” Delta said.
Delta said it needs the $325 million in concessions it is seeking from its pilots as part of its recovery. The pilots have offered $90.7 million in average annual concessions over four years.
Delta said in Monday’s bankruptcy court filing that it offered the union on Friday to reduce the pay reduction portion of its concessions proposal from 19.5 percent to 19 percent, but with other changes that would actually increase the value of the concessions to $326.2 million.
The cuts would be on top of $1 billion in annual concessions the pilots agreed to in a five-year deal reached in 2004. That deal included a 32.5 percent pay cut.
In Monday’s SEC filing, Delta also said it can’t predict whether its defined benefit pension plan will continue when it emerges from Chapter 11. Delta pilots have tried without success to get the company to continue making certain contributions to the pension plan during the bankruptcy case.
Delta estimates that its funding requirements under its defined benefit pension plan are roughly $3.4 billion between 2006-2008. The cash-strapped airline said it may be required to fully fund required contributions at the time it exits bankruptcy if it decides to keep the plan going.
Delta, which filed for Chapter 11 on Sept. 14, has recorded losses of more than $11 billion since January 2001 and over that period has announced that it would cut up to 33,000 jobs. Its loss in the third quarter, reported Thursday, was $1.13 billion.
