Question for AA Guys

[Smoke Toliet]

Any word on how many punched out on Dec 1st?

 

[aa73]

A whopping 87. Very disappointing...

 

[AA717driver]

A whopping 87. Very disappointing...

73, apparently, we just aren't obnoxious enough. TC

 

[Starscream]

Hey aa73, was wondering also.........


1. How many were realistically expected? What would have been considered a "huge" December 1st?

2. When is the next potential big retirement day?

3. Yesterday, a flowback on the bus was saying that a big December 1st would have triggered February recall classes. Sounds a bit optimistic on that front, but would you think recalls before the summer are a realistic hope? 200 slots could take care of the remaining 1200 currently waiting to be called...........

 

[aa73]

73, apparently, we just aren't obnoxious enough. TC

We need to work on that.... You're a d.o.u.c.h.e.

 

[aa73]

Starscream,

Most were expecting 100-200 at the VERY least. The B fund unit value dropped drastically from August to September (for the 3 month look back for lock in.) From now on the new B fund unit value is way lower, which will result in dramatically reduced early outs for the next few months at least. Dec 1 is looking like the last chance "take the money and run" for a long time.

I guess some pilots just define themselves with this job. Apparently there was a 57 year old A-Scaler with a gazillion B fund units hired at age 22 who decided to stay...

As far as recalls resuming, the rumors are flying around next spring. I wouldn't be surprised, especially in light of accelerated 737 deliveries and not-so-fast MD80/A300 retirements. As long as oil stays down, I think we'll see recalls resuming sometime next year (albeit a "trickle" recall.) Just my crystal ball, it probably needs a good polishing.

73

 

[Starscream]

Just my crystal ball, it probably needs a good polishing.

I've thrown mine out. Nothing has panned out the way I'd have expected.


Thanks for the info, my friend.

 

[waveflyer]

another question- i thought AA was next in line in the negotiating process after AAA bailed out for their seniority issues. What's the latest? And the latest on scope?

 

[luckytohaveajob]

How concerned are the A planners with the 17 year funding schedule?

Do they think they will get their money?

 

[AAflyer]

another question- i thought AA was next in line in the negotiating process after AAA bailed out for their seniority issues. What's the latest? And the latest on scope?

At a snails pace would be overstating. Hopefully 2009 is the year we are released to self help, as that is the only time AA will really start to negotiate.

SCOPE is not open for discussion on our side, period.

AAflyer

 

[Starscream]

SCOPE is not open for discussion on our side, period.

AAflyer

As a young Eagle RJ driver who yearns for more in this lifetime, I absolutely applaud that stance.


I'm not sure many of our most senior would share my sentiment, however.

 

[waveflyer]

i thought it was open for reeling it in a bit-- maybe combining the lists eventually... guess that's not an option while so many on furlough. Egos and paychecks aside - i wish we all would- i don't care if our management chooses to start C172 service- i want our guys flying it.

 

[magrs]

I'm sitting on the sidelines, chomping at the bit to get back. I've been furloughed now for 7 years, but would gladly give my left (fill in the blank) to sit another 7 just to see someone, anyone, get a decent contract (preferably AA of course.) The APA better not drop the ball on this one. They have all the stars lined up, cheap fuel, rising fares, and capacity pulled so tight, the money printing press in Big "D" must be bursting at the seams. AMR will make money this quarter, and tons of it. The time is ripe for the employees to regain at least some of what the have given up, and not at the cost of QOL.

Good luck boys, I'll be waiting with baited breath!

 

[waveflyer]

well said!
Good Luck guys!