This is exactly the reason this industry has gone to where it is today. Yeah, it's a leap up from where these guys are, but in 6 months you'll hear them bitching about not being upgraded. Such as the f/o I had which had one year within aviation, and was bitching about how the Mainline pilots don't stand up for the regional guys and that's why the f/o pay scales are so low, and he's getting ramain noodle pay for flying a jet...blah blah blah........errrrr...dude..then why are you here???? Well you see...I need the experience to get on with a major...... I politely tried to explain to him some of the history in the past 20 or so years, which he had no clue but still insisted it was mainline pilots faults this is where it is (which to some degree it is, but not all of it) I politely told him to STFU and continued the 4 day in silence regarding anything within the aviation industry.