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dollacrackho

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just got done watching doogie's clt pilot video i guess the the 90 seaters are officially a dead horse. or are they???? i dont really care any more either way as it seems for every 900 we would have gotten we would have gotten 3 republic/mid-atlantic/piedmont captains to fly them. what really is going to piss me off however is if these things show up at mesa or some other ********************e outfit. if this happens i'm going to fed ex doogie a statue i made of him complete with undigested corn and nuts and still steaming.

also for other psa'ers what is going on with the alpa site? is anyone else having trouble getting on within the last couple of days.

that is all
pray for a quick recovery for terrell owens that poor soul. to be burdened with millions of dollars is not an easy thing for a person to handle sometimes.
 
If you don't care either way, why the hell you post anything? Nobody cares about anything!
I don't care! Do you guys care?
See, nobody cares to care!!!! :-D

Maybe the PSA guy that talk to DP that was about too cry.... I think he cares!!!
 
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Doug makes US cry. How much would it cost to print up a few lanyards? Or could we con Pepsi into doing it for us?
 
Surf? What gives man? Your usually so jovial and well. . . . a smartass!

I dont care either and even if they came here its not like any psaers would ever fly them. The pay rate would have been nice but I doubt it would have been anything to write home about.

To be honest, I'm glad they arent coming here, its a mainline airplane and it belongs at mainline, just like the 190s do. Hell, I'd argue against the 700's too. Its a blast to fly but its a border line mainline/commuter airplane.
 
Just watched it. I'm speechless. . . . .what about absolute scumbag DP is, not only does he take a condecending your not good enough for me to spit on attitude toward regional pilots to their faces, he also contradics himself several times.

He is clearly not the least bit in touch with what this airline is doing. Hats off the the mainline guy in the beginning bascially saying "have fun counting the millions your took for us and then blame us for how poor the operation is going." My god what a scumbag airline this is!
 
Dougie:

"It wasn't a take it or leave it offer, I don't know why you keep calling it that"

later...

"We made the offer, you said no, so now it's dead."
 
Surf? What gives man? Your usually so jovial and well. . . . a smartass!

I dont care either and even if they came here its not like any psaers would ever fly them. The pay rate would have been nice but I doubt it would have been anything to write home about.

To be honest, I'm glad they arent coming here, its a mainline airplane and it belongs at mainline, just like the 190s do. Hell, I'd argue against the 700's too. Its a blast to fly but its a border line mainline/commuter airplane.

Punch! I totally support PSA!!!! I am glad they turned that 'turd' down! But the dude for PSA that was about to cry about it is sad!!!!!

Grow some nuts!!! Two things about Parker.....1st, I give him credit.... He tells people stuff they don't wanna hear!! He doesn't sugar coat!!
But the dude acts like he doesn't know anything about anything when he answers a question!!! Thats what a hate about him!!!

When he says it doesn't matter the seats behind you, I wanna puke!!! Lets see, move revenue means more money for CEO not for Labor!!!! WTF a$$hole!! The CRJ=the EMB190.... I say, same pay rates!!!!

He wants to neg. when its a pay cut, but not when its a pay raise!!!!!

Bottom.. PDT/PSA need to stand strong.......... D.P. will be leaving this airline in about 3 years....................RICH!!!!
 
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But the dude for PSA that was about to cry about it is sad!

True enough.

I think the most informative part of the meeting was what the mainline guys around me were muttering while the dialogue was going on. There were a couple of extremely smart guys with some exceptional input- off mic of course- and a pair of haggard has-beens that really were insulting by making fun of the 900 issue as the kid's voice cracked... and they laughed... Screw 'em; I'm sure they're miserable (I had to bite my tongue to keep from asking about their retirement when they made a joke about his "upgrade delayed" and sniffled). However, I'm telling ya the two bright sparks were freakin' brilliant and made me sit in awe and think a while about what they said. Too bad the mic was across the room.

I liked the way Doug got peeved at Arnie, too- it's classic misrepresentation exposed from both sides. FWIW, DP is almost my height, which took me aback- and looked me in the eye and shook my hand when I passed him as he entered the TC. One HECK of a politician, and a slimily formidable one at that. He avoids the continuity of his statements while being glib about the whole thing, which shows his true colors as just another... gasp... CEO. Truly Icahnic behavior, dontcha think? ;) Another big turd in a bowl of profiteers; that's how it works in a septic tank- the biggest chunks rise to the top.
 
True, Don't think the grass is greener on the other side!!! It's only greener because theres a septic tank underneath!!!!

Sorry for the tyo's I have been hittin the Jim Beam Black really hard!!!!
Easy on the repleys!!
 
If you don't care either way, why the hell you post anything?

sorry didnt mean to piss in you cheerios chief. was just stating i dont give a sh!t if the 900's come here because i'm sure if they do it will be a ********************e deal all around. there will obviously be no decent 900 pay rate hammered out while doogie is in charge . so now the interesting part will be to see where they end up.
 
sorry didnt mean to piss in you cheerios chief. was just stating i dont give a sh!t if the 900's come here because i'm sure if they do it will be a ********************e deal all around. there will obviously be no decent 900 pay rate hammered out while doogie is in charge . so now the interesting part will be to see where they end up.


Dude, you didn't piss me off!! We at PDT would have been given the same offer!!

DP..... we got some real growth for you folks!, PDT? Really??? Yea.. we got some nice shiney Q400's!!! But you gotta fly them at Blended 100/200/300 Rates rates!!!!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaa! Yippie!!!!! Nice Doug!!! Thank You soooo sooo much!!!!

1 year later...... All your 100/200's are being returned!!!

DP.... I know he has a tuff job... But for him to say he does'nt want to give the 900's to Mesa because they suck...... Yet doesn't wanna give them to PSA and have a better quality of product really sucks!!!

Doug Parker!!!!!! Hello!!! You gotta spend money to make money!!! My wife owns her own business that does really well...... And the reason it does as good as it does... hmmmmm, we invest and keep her employee's happy!!! Maybe you should look into that!!!

Whats that dear???? Do the yard and take the trash out??? Okay!!! Love you you too!!! LOL!!
 
Alright so Doug says that the days of getting paid more for more seats are over. Well looking at the EMB190 the US Air guys are getting paid more to fly more seats, so either their overpaid or the republic guys are underpaid, or this is yet another contradiction. Which is Dougie Boy? Someone should ask him at the next town hall meeting or whatever its called.
 
it seems for every 900 we would have gotten we would have gotten 3 republic/mid-atlantic/piedmont captains to fly them. what really is going to piss me off however is if these things show up at mesa or some other ********************e outfit.

What, you mean you never had to work at USAirways mainline to be part of the J4J program? Shoot I used to work at Home Depot, maybe Lowes will recall me and let me jump ahead of all of the other employees who have been there for years and give me a manager position.

As far as the 900's going to Mesa or somewhere else, it's obvious that performance and quality of product are not what speak in this industry. Look at Mesa, they're still around and probably will be for a long time.
 
As far as the 900's going to Mesa or somewhere else, it's obvious that performance and quality of product are not what speak in this industry. Look at Mesa, they're still around and probably will be for a long time.


thats a good point. on the psa website they always print all the on time perf. stats and all the sh!t. whats the motivation to be on time? its sure as hell doesnt matter to doogie pecker. "you guys have great on time performance, your reward are some 90 seaters i will give you to fly for rates that would make your airline bigger whores than gojerk airlines"

what a slap in the face. the amazing thing about doog is that he can look the dude right in the face and not start laughing when he says that its not a concessionary rate to fly the 90 seaters for our current blended 50-70 seat rate. so what we would get would be a 57 seat rate for a 90 seat airplane.
a big f^ck you doogie. go build your 7th mansion and keep your insults to yourself you dirty corporate criminal. we should get one of our skaggiest f/a's to go the next town hall meeting and dress like a whore and wear a sign around her neck that says willing to fly 90 seaters for cheap.
 
Anybody know what percentage profit margin Airways pays to MESA? I am curious...I think it is around 10 percent.

In the webcast Doug mentions that flying these aircraft at PSA would be more expensive. I find that hard to fathom. Especially when you factor in MESA's performance and cancellation rate etc.

If anybody is going to whore...let it be mainline...then at least we would have some hope of getting a number and a future.
 
And did you get your schedule for next month?

3 Days before the month ends you find out your schedule. And what total crap they are. If i am lucky i will get 7 days in my own bed next month.
10 IOE lines in CLT? WTF?
Are we being punished?
Doug P is against us, our management is against us and ALPA national is against us. WTF do we have going for us?
F/O's screwed again. Wonder what creative way they are going to screw us in November? 20 IOE Lines to new F/O's?
 
thats a good point. on the psa website they always print all the on time perf. stats and all the sh!t. whats the motivation to be on time? its sure as hell doesnt matter to doogie pecker. "you guys have great on time performance, your reward are some 90 seaters i will give you to fly for rates that would make your airline bigger whores than gojerk airlines"

I find my inspiration from the DRS where it says "Keep up the great work." That's the wind beneath my wings. I take the day old DRS's and tear that off and carry it around in my pilot shirts close to my heart. Days like today when I'm sitting on the couch at home with a t-shirt I use tape to adhere them on my chest. I wish PSA would make me work every day of the month because it hurts my chest hairs when I rip the tape off.
 
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7 days in your own bed? That's being optimistic...I spent 5 in my own bed (errr ahh airmattress that is ) last month.

At least we aren't being asked to sleep on a plywood board yet...give it time.
 
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b. Illness.
1. Even a minor illness suffered in day-to-day living can seriously degrade performance of many piloting tasks vital to safe flight. Illness can produce fever and distracting symptoms that can impair judgment, memory, alertness, and the ability to make calculations. Although symptoms from an illness may be under adequate control with a medication, the medication itself may decrease pilot performance.
2. The safest rule is not to fly while suffering from any illness. If this rule is considered too stringent for a particular illness, the pilot should contact an Aviation Medical Examiner for advice.
c. Medication.
1. Pilot performance can be seriously degraded by both prescribed and over-the-counter medications, as well as by the medical conditions for which they are taken. Many medications, such as tranquilizers, sedatives, strong pain relievers, and cough-suppressant preparations, have primary effects that may impair judgment, memory, alertness, coordination, vision, and the ability to make calculations. Others, such as antihistamines, blood pressure drugs, muscle relaxants, and agents to control diarrhea and motion sickness, have side effects that may impair the same critical functions. Any medication that depresses the nervous system, such as a sedative, tranquilizer or antihistamine, can make a pilot much more susceptible to hypoxia.
2. The CFRs prohibit pilots from performing crewmember duties while using any medication that affects the faculties in any way contrary to safety. The safest rule is not to fly as a crewmember while taking any medication, unless approved to do so by the FAA.
d. Alcohol.
1. Extensive research has provided a number of facts about the hazards of alcohol consumption and flying. As little as one ounce of liquor, one bottle of beer or four ounces of wine can impair flying skills, with the alcohol consumed in these drinks being detectable in the breath and blood for at least 3 hours. Even after the body completely destroys a moderate amount of alcohol, a pilot can still be severely impaired for many hours by hangover. There is simply no way of increasing the destruction of alcohol or alleviating a hangover. Alcohol also renders a pilot much more susceptible to disorientation and hypoxia.
2. A consistently high alcohol related fatal aircraft accident rate serves to emphasize that alcohol and flying are a potentially lethal combination. The CFRs prohibit pilots from performing crewmember duties within 8 hours after drinking any alcoholic beverage or while under the influence of alcohol. However, due to the slow destruction of alcohol, a pilot may still be under influence 8 hours after drinking a moderate amount of alcohol. Therefore, an excellent rule is to allow at least 12 to 24 hours between "bottle and throttle," depending on the amount of alcoholic beverage consumed.
e. Fatigue.
1. Fatigue continues to be one of the most treacherous hazards to flight safety, as it may not be apparent to a pilot until serious errors are made. Fatigue is best described as either acute (short-term) or chronic (long-term).
2. A normal occurrence of everyday living, acute fatigue is the tiredness felt after long periods of physical and mental strain, including strenuous muscular effort, immobility, heavy mental workload, strong emotional pressure, monotony, and lack of sleep. Consequently, coordination and alertness, so vital to safe pilot performance, can be reduced. Acute fatigue is prevented by adequate rest and sleep, as well as by regular exercise and proper nutrition.
3. Chronic fatigue occurs when there is not enough time for full recovery between episodes of acute fatigue. Performance continues to fall off, and judgment becomes impaired so that unwarranted risks may be taken. Recovery from chronic fatigue requires a prolonged period of rest.
f. Stress.
1. Stress from the pressures of everyday living can impair pilot performance, often in very subtle ways. Difficulties, particularly at work, can occupy thought processes enough to markedly decrease alertness. Distraction can so interfere with judgment that unwarranted risks are taken, such as flying into deteriorating weather conditions to keep on schedule. Stress and fatigue (see above) can be an extremely hazardous combination.
2. Most pilots do not leave stress "on the ground." Therefore, when more than usual difficulties are being experienced, a pilot should consider delaying flight until these difficulties are satisfactorily resolved.
g. Emotion.
Certain emotionally upsetting events, including a serious argument, death of a family member, separation or divorce, loss of job, and financial catastrophe, can render a pilot unable to fly an aircraft safely. The emotions of anger, depression, and anxiety from such events not only decrease alertness but also may lead to taking risks that border on self-destruction. Any pilot who experiences an emotionally upsetting event should not fly until satisfactorily recovered from it.
h. Personal Checklist. Aircraft accident statistics show that pilots should be conducting preflight checklists on themselves as well as their aircraft for pilot impairment contributes to many more accidents than failures of aircraft systems. A personal checklist, which includes all of the categories of pilot impairment as discussed in this section, that can be easily committed to memory is being distributed by the FAA in the form of a wallet-sized card.
i. PERSONAL CHECKLIST. I'm physically and mentally safe to fly; not being impaired by:
Illness
Medication
Stress
Alcohol
Fatigue
Emotion

Please print out and place in crew room!
 
I have to agree wtih WSurf .... DDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEzzzzzzzzz NUTA !!!!!
DP is looking out for one thing and one thing only. Has anyone been in CLT lately? Did you happen to see a -319 painted in Philly Eagles colors? How much did that cost? Why not put that money toward the people who gave up so much or hell go purchase Crew Track for PSA and PDT.

Shall I go on?


Peace
 
Did you happen to see a -319 painted in Philly Eagles colors? How much did that cost? Why not put that money toward the people who gave up so much

Just FYI on the Eagles plane... The Eagles paid for that plane to be painted, not US Airways.
 
they have a 319 painted in eagles colors? what a waste of f-cking money.
they could have picked a team that doesnt blow at least.
 
Just FYI on the Eagles plane... The Eagles paid for that plane to be painted, not US Airways.

For your information, we did pay for that plane to be painted!! Even if the Eagles fronted the money, we still had to pay to be the offical Airline of the Eagles...

And on top of that.... it won't even carry the team!!! Northwest Airlines has the contract to carrier the Eagles!!!! Too Funny!!!
Plus, have you every seen a professional football team on a little A-319?
 
For your information, we did pay for that plane to be painted!! Even if the Eagles fronted the money, we still had to pay to be the offical Airline of the Eagles...

And on top of that.... it won't even carry the team!!! Northwest Airlines has the contract to carrier the Eagles!!!! Too Funny!!!
Plus, have you every seen a professional football team on a little A-319?

Yeah, no doubt. Needs to be at least a 757 or 321.
 

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