Proposed UPS class dates and numbers...

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Got this off our Union notification e-mail:


{NEW HIRE CLASSES}
IPA Membership Committee Chairman Curt Rausch says UPS has finalized
a series of new hire classes. The first date is November 18 with
15 pilots. Another class is scheduled for December 13 with 17
pilots and an additional 17 new hires will attend a class January
14. We'll have more information as it becomes available.

Ill post more when I find out...

BBDC8

 

[EMB_driver2002]

Thanks for keeping us updated Big Brown!

 

[U-I pilot]

I'm pretty sure there's 1 DC-8 class gonna be in december. Don't know numbers...

 

[altscap]

anyone know the secret for getting an interview? LOR? Personal meeting w/the chief pilot? Airinc seminar? I've had my resume in the database for about 4 months now. Should have the magic 1000pic by new years eve.

 

[Clyde]

anyone know the secret for getting an interview? LOR? Personal meeting w/the chief pilot? Airinc seminar? I've had my resume in the database for about 4 months now. Should have the magic 1000pic by new years eve.

Not exactly sure what the secret knock is these days, but if I could offer some advice, here's what I would give:

- Keep updating your online app. Even if your flight time changed by just a few minutes, keep updating at least once a month.

- LOR's from line pilots are hit and miss. Overall, they can't hurt, but at the same time there is no guarantee one will work either.

- I never attended any AirInc seminars, but again, it couldn't hurt. At the very least it will give you a chance to meet with some HR reps. My advice here, is ask them what you could do to make yourself marketable as a potential UPS cadidate.

Best of luck to you, and hope to see you on the property someday.

 

[altscap]

Thanks Clyde. Guess I'll keep doing what I've been doing and hopefully my turn will come soon

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Just a note about Air Inc. I dont work there nor do I get any money for saying good things about them. I went to 7 different Air Inc Conf. At the time, It helped me get valuable face time. I had 5 different interviews while I was at the rejional, AA, DAL, NWA, TWA, UPS. I was turned down at 2 and hired or in the pool at 3 others when UPS game me the call. I met and talked with Phil Donahoe (Head of HR at the time, works in a different dept now) at all 7 Air Inc conf's and he was very nice and gave me his time when I was there. Everytime I spoke with him and mentioned that I had 3 LOR's from 3 Sr UPS Line pilots, He told me to keep building my time. The only time he ever gave me his number and asked me to do a follow up with him was when I had mentioned to him that I had a LOR from an Assistant Chief Pilot (Management Guy).

Thats my story, other have had different things happen to them...

BBDC8

 

[Boogenagen]

Has anyone interviewed recently at UPS and been put in the pool ?? Or know of anyone that has ????

 

[otis]

I interviewed recently and told that I would be put into the pool. Is this a good or bad thing?

otis

 

[Boogenagen]

Certainly not bad, how were you notified ??

 

[FreightNazi]

Heard that a female that was in the pool from 2001 was asked to re-interview, she had added a college degree and jet type rating since her original interview. This time around she was rejected. Seems that being in the original pool is no guarantee of a job at UPS.

 

[Clyde]

I interviewed recently and told that I would be put into the pool. Is this a good or bad thing?

otis

That's a good thing. You've made it through the interview, so they like you. Now, just wait for a class date. Congratulations, hope to see you on the seniority list real soon!!

 

[C425Driver]

Hey Otis,


Congrats on becoming a poolie. I just got my call for an interview last week. How long after your interview did they notify you?

C425Driver

 

[NEDude]

I heard a captain at my airline was just put into the pool. Don't know all the details. However for all you turboprop guys, we are a strict BE-1900 operator.

 

[tim1wolf]

I too was in the pool for 3 years, re-interviewed with almost 1500 more heavy jet hours, and was sent packing! I have lost my trust in UPS and am gladly looking elsewhere now.

 

[Rhoid]

Hey Clyde, I sent you a message on another thread, but would you consider taking my resume in with a recommendation? I really want to get on with UPS. Thanks

 

[Rhoid]

I too was in the pool for 3 years, re-interviewed with almost 1500 more heavy jet hours, and was sent packing! I have lost my trust in UPS and am gladly looking elsewhere now.

Was it a different interview team doing your interview?

 

[Rhoid]

I too was in the pool for 3 years, re-interviewed with almost 1500 more heavy jet hours, and was sent packing! I have lost my trust in UPS and am gladly looking elsewhere now.

I'm not sure that your 1500 more heavy jet hours did anything for them. I heard that they just hired a guy with Beech 1900 time as his biggest plane flown.

 

[tim1wolf]

The team was the same except there was an HR person (in training, I think) added to the face-to-face, and a DC-8 Captain there instead of the guy from the sim.

 

[H25BCPTN]

Fly Safe

 

[Rhoid]

This just came out today, that all new hires must have 1000 hours of PIC Jet time. A friend of mine that had already done his medical was called and told sorry. Good luck to everyone and see you in Louisville.


Fly Safe

Did you get hired? When's your class date? Did they say what aircraft they are going to put you in? Congrats! Hope to see you there too, sooner than later!

 

[U-I pilot]

some crewmembers are starting basic indoc this week. the 1000jet PIC is accurate.

 

[Rhoid]

What aircraft are they going to?

 

[LittleLearBoy]

Not to sound nasty, but the way I see it they can be very picky in who they hire. With all the people on the streets who have the 1000 pic time and heavy time, etc, etc. I think it comes down to your personality.

 

[U-I pilot]

All going to panel, some for each panel. 747, 727 and DC8. Majority to the 8.

 

[boomlrd]

Hey RHOID, still no changes in DAYTON, thought us contractors were getting the boot!! HA- You CFI - know it alls! Too funny, Just got pay raises and a better sched, thanks UPS!!!

 

[U-I pilot]

HA- You CFI - know it alls!

Fine, no info for you!

 

[H25BCPTN]

Yes, I have been hired and will be attending the November 18th class. They will assign us AC sometime after we start class.

I am honored and excited to be part of the team at UPS. See everyone in Louisville.

Fly Safe

 

[flybrowntails]

"Just got pay raises and a better sched, thanks UPS!!!"

waiting for a better sched. and a pay raise--

thanks IPA!
(lets not forget scope, pension, benifits)
fbt
100%

 

[Rhoid]

Hey RHOID, still no changes in DAYTON, thought us contractors were getting the boot!! HA- You CFI - know it alls! Too funny, Just got pay raises and a better sched, thanks UPS!!!

Just one SMALL point you forgot, the Menlo deal doesn't even close till the end of the year, so you are still contracted to Menlo and not UPS at this time. I've heard that the IPA will be making a BIG to do over the Menlo flying once the deal is done and I wouldn't be so smug about keeping your flying out of DAY in the future. Oh and one more thing, don't you think that Menlo management and your own contractor's management would tell you that you are going to keep the flying? Of course they would, otherwise you all would be distraught and try and screw the company over. My friends at UPS tell me that their management is great at putting out disinformation to suit their goals. So just because they say you will be flying Menlo doesn't mean you will be flying Menlo in the future.

I don't think that UPS will risk a war with the IPA over the flying in DAY, it's clear cut in the contract that the flying is IPA's once the deal in finished. UPS will talk tough that SCS is not an affiliate of UPS but I've been told that scope negotiations are going to be one of the key topics. They would probably have to keep some contractors flying for awhile as UPS does not have the aircraft or pilots available to immediately take over operations in DAY.