Premium Pay at ASA for the 4th of July weekend

[Stifler's Mom]

Thanks.

 

[crj567]

Even i know that 150% of nothing is still nothing!

You could not possibly have summed up your own self-worth more aptly than with this very statement.

 

[MXAV8R]

Yea, but are those 70 seaters going to the Delta side, or over to the United side. Frankly, I think if things keep up the way they are, we ought to push a hard offensive campaign to net all the 90 seaters flying in and out of Atlanta. They don't need a base here, it's cost prohibitive.........remember?

ummm....Yeah, I think 12500 Delta mainline pilots might have a little more pull then you (ASA).

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Agreed. ASA isn't entitled to anything more than their written agreement with mainline. ASA isn't the most cost effective carrier in ATL or anywhere else. Yes, they are a professional group, but Delta honestly doesn't care about that as much as the bottom line.

 

[JumpersAway]

ummm....Yeah, I think 12500 Delta mainline pilots might have a little more pull then you (ASA).

If this is true, when will they show it? Either pull the flying back to the mainline list, or quit giving up scope. Thus far, it doesn't appear that either is being done. Don't get me wrong, I think a 70/90 seater should be on a mainline certificate, but as long as they aren't, I want them at a regional that values it's employees, and pays them well. Would you not agree?

 

[CFI2766]

Agreed. ASA isn't entitled to anything more than their written agreement with mainline. ASA isn't the most cost effective carrier in ATL or anywhere else. Yes, they are a professional group, but Delta honestly doesn't care about that as much as the bottom line.

Concur, and I believe that this doesn't bode well for our future.

 

[MXAV8R]

If this is true, when will they show it? Either pull the flying back to the mainline list, or quit giving up scope. Thus far, it doesn't appear that either is being done. Don't get me wrong, I think a 70/90 seater should be on a mainline certificate, but as long as they aren't, I want them at a regional that values it's employees, and pays them well. Would you not agree?

100% agree with you.

 

[COOPERVANE]

ummm....Yeah, I think 12500 Delta mainline pilots might have a little more pull then you (ASA).

Ummmm...Why does everyone use Ummmmm... to begin paragraphs now? Is it because you feel it belittles the person you are answering just that little bit extra?

 

[MXAV8R]

Ummmm...Why does everyone use Ummmmm... to begin paragraphs now? Is it because you feel it belittles the person you are answering just that little bit extra?

Ummm....yeaaaah...ummm...I am going to need you to calm down. Nnnn'kay?

 

[Speedtape]

The 700/900's will not be going anywhere.

The only ones that hope so, are the pilots on the low end of the list at Delta. Face it, you will be on the street soon. Part of the benefit of merging, was consolidating and reducing down to an efficient size. That ultimately means job losses. You took the risk when you left your last position. The majority of your pilot group will not spend the capital. In addition, there would be lawsuits for harm against the Pilot group that attempted to do that. Dan Ford established and won on that issue. Your negotiating goals. because of your ALPA legal guidance were changed as a result of it in 2000. But most of you that are chattering and flaming about it were probably still in High School.

Good Luck!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not sure about that. As you can read on the majors board, the decision to furlough was put on hold. I agree that if they cut summer 2010 flying we will have people on the street.
I was floored at this decision, as I was sure it would happen. The bottom 500 here at DAL get to relax for a little bit. It literally was weeks away.
Good for our management team. Fact is they want the bodies when others fold.
As for the 900's. I think that you will see more of them. As many as DAL can get from us. (Personally I do not see the ceiling moving over 255. )

 

[777forever]

How can Delta furlough anytime within the next two years? I've read the furlough protection in the Merger LOA and then the Union added that furlough protection with the removal of 6 seats on all the 76 seaters. Seems to me like Delta would have another date in court if they furloughed.

 

[Speedtape]

How can Delta furlough anytime within the next two years? I've read the furlough protection in the Merger LOA and then the Union added that furlough protection with the removal of 6 seats on all the 76 seaters. Seems to me like Delta would have another date in court if they furloughed.

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Would you rather them go out of business? Maybe they will invoke the Force Majeure tactic!

 

[WayBack]

If this is true, when will they show it? Either pull the flying back to the mainline list, or quit giving up scope. Thus far, it doesn't appear that either is being done. Don't get me wrong, I think a 70/90 seater should be on a mainline certificate, but as long as they aren't, I want them at a regional that values it's employees, and pays them well. Would you not agree?

There is no such thing.
This is the problem with the airlines. Someone here is delusional, thinking that there is a regional out there who is paid well.
And "values it's employees"??? Get real. You're a dime a dozen crew. They smile to your faces because they have you for cheap right now. Just wait till you get cheaper, they all do.

 

[WayBack]

The 700/900's will not be going anywhere.

The only ones that hope so, are the pilots on the low end of the list at Delta. Face it, you will be on the street soon.
Good Luck!

I've heard rumors that there is some flow back protection for the mainline guys, and they will flow back to the wholey owned, starting with Compass....who flies the "heavy".