Preferential hiring for Comair pilots

[asaflyer]

Ok. So any Comair pilot that is offered a pref. interview must resign his seniority number with Comair. That should be a hard choice to make. (sarcasm)

 

[Muppets]

I'll go against the grain here...

There are a lot of furloughed airline pilots out there. To single Comair plots out for preferential treatment is unfair to those that have been on the street longer. If there is any preferential treatment, it should be for all furloughed pilots.

I'll also go so far as to say that furloughed major airline pilots should get preferential treatment at the major airlines over furloughed regional airline pilots.

I also think military pilots should get preferential treatment due to their service to our country and the sacrifices they have made.

And I think that anyone with an internal recommendation should get preferential treatment as they are a known quality by someone already at the airline.

So maybe what I'm really saying is that hiring should be based on qualifications, not preferential treatment.

And yes, having been furloughed twice, I have "walked a mile in their shoes".

Give me a F'ing break

 

[rjfo]

Give me a F'ing break

Which part, that they've sacrificed for their country;or they should get preferential interviews? To say they haven't sacrificed for their country would show you are blind,ignorant or a combination.

I would agree that everyone should have the same priority as everyone; whether you are military, furloughed or comair. Get the qualification, be competitive and earn your job, just like everyone else on the seniority list!

 

[Jim]

Give me a F'ing break

if your reading comprehension was at least average, you'd realize that the entire post taken in context was that no one should get preferential treatment and hiring should be based on merit.

But it is obvious you are one of those people that think the freedom, rights and opportunities you enjoy in the U.S. just magically appear with without anyone having to make the sacrifices necessary to protect them.

 

[JumpersAway]

I love how views on prefferential hiring always taylor to suit one's own advantage. Here's a thought- let those in charge of the hiring and selection do their job, and you do yours by filling out the application. Let fate, luck, and networking skill affect the odds.

There is also more than one way to serve one's country- protecting liberty, freedom, and opportunity.

 

[Muppets]

if your reading comprehension was at least average, you'd realize that the entire post taken in context was that no one should get preferential treatment and hiring should be based on merit.

But it is obvious you are one of those people that think the freedom, rights and opportunities you enjoy in the U.S. just magically appear with without anyone having to make the sacrifices necessary to protect them.

So by "merit"...you mean that military pilots should get hired first. I get at least one trip a month with a Commander jock strap. Pref hiring for military already exists in Memphis and Louisville...lets keep it there.

 

[stratus72]

I was at Comair during the whole "Delta preferential hiring" fiasco. I, along with plenty of other Comair pilots, had no problem letting the guys keep their seniority number. In addition, many of had absolutely nothing to do with the RJDC. I personally didn't agree with it and made that known to the supporters. I only mention this because some at Delta still carry a grudge and assume we all supported these unpopular union/company/select pilots decisions. Many of us did not...

 

[Flyer1015]

But it is obvious you are one of those people that think the freedom, rights and opportunities you enjoy in the U.S. just magically appear with without anyone having to make the sacrifices necessary to protect them.

We haven't had a war to protect OUR "freedom, rights and opportunities" ever since WWII. Everything else has been for somebody else or something else. Iraq war I and II were both oil. Afghanistan was... something else. But not attacking Afganistan would not have made us lose "freedom, rights, and opportunities."

Lets call a spade a spade. What you are saying was true back in the day, but today, a military pilot is more likely to die stateside on a training mission than in Iraq/Afghanistan or whatever other country Romney decides to invade soon.

I only wish the AF took me, but I couldn't pass the military medical. Free flight training, and I honestly never cared about the fighter squad, bomber units, I'd be just as fat/dumb/happy flying a cargo transport or a refueler. Anyway, to say that military pilots should receive preferntial interviews just for their service is a little ridiculous.

 

[flyboyike]

Please, no preferred anything for us, I beg you. I've had it up to here with being preferred.

 

[Jim]

So by "merit"...you mean that military pilots should get hired first. I get at least one trip a month with a Commander jock strap. Pref hiring for military already exists in Memphis and Louisville...lets keep it there.

By merit I meant qualifications. The best qualified for the job. No preferential hiring.

You know, there are adult learning courses that can help you with your lack of reading comprehension.

Or is it that you are such an anti-military nutcase that you lose all common sense and the ability to reason as soon as you see the word "military"?

 

[rtmcfi]

So by best qualified, you mean rj pilots. They already fly mainline routes, at civilian airports, in actual
IMC. ;-)

 

[NuGuy]

I was at Comair during the whole "Delta preferential hiring" fiasco. I, along with plenty of other Comair pilots, had no problem letting the guys keep their seniority number. In addition, many of had absolutely nothing to do with the RJDC. I personally didn't agree with it and made that known to the supporters. I only mention this because some at Delta still carry a grudge and assume we all supported these unpopular union/company/select pilots decisions. Many of us did not...

And yet the reps that put those MEC people in office and those policies in place remained in power.

No one was recalled, and there was no retraction or repudiation of this position by anyone, not even by a single LEC.

Sorry, doesn't wash. If you objected to it then, something more could have been done by the "majority" that didn't agree with this policy.

My guess is that those who "objected" felt "well, let's see if this gets any traction before I say anything."

The time to act was then, not blubber "it wasn't MY fault" years after the fact. That dog don't hunt.

Nu

 

[waveflyer]

Nu, I'm afraid you don't understand life in the whipsaw for pilots trying to move on-
The idea in the whipsaw market mainline pilots helped create is to keep your head down and don't make waves- then MOVE ON.

 

[Twisted Mind]

Delta guys, GET OVER IT!!!!!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Delta guys, GET OVER IT!!!!!

Tell that to a Delta guy (not me) who couldn't even interview because the greed (and attempted scope grab) over there wouldn't allow him to interview for a NEW-HIRE F/O spot......

Sorry that's karma smackin you in the .......

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Judging by who started this post and does the most whining about Delta scope, Wave was a Comair guy?

Makes sense.....PFT Commuter Pilot, PFT 737 Pilot.

 

[Twisted Mind]

Bill it was over 10 years ago. No one can change the past move on.

 

[waveflyer]

Go fish lumberg

 

[SWA Bubba]

So by "merit"...you mean that military pilots should get hired first. I get at least one trip a month with a Commander jock strap. Pref hiring for military already exists in Memphis and Louisville...lets keep it there.

Boy, you really CAN'T read, can you? He's even spelled it out for you and you still missed it to put a slam on military guys in general. Here it is, slower and with more direct words:

He says Comair should get preferrential hiring, ...as should furloughed guys, ...as should military guys, ...as should everyone else.... Get it? He's applying a little sarcasm here- he's saying that EVERYONE has a sob story or special qual to put them at the top of the list; therefore, no one gets preferential treatment, and airlines should hire on merit (whatever their criteria is), and merit alone.

Is that any better? Do you get it now? Or do you want to take another unrelated slap at the military again because you saw a Navy reference in his profile?

Bubba

 

[SWA Bubba]

We haven't had a war to protect OUR "freedom, rights and opportunities" ever since WWII. Everything else has been for somebody else or something else. Iraq war I and II were both oil. Afghanistan was... something else. But not attacking Afganistan would not have made us lose "freedom, rights, and opportunities."

Lets call a spade a spade. What you are saying was true back in the day, but today, a military pilot is more likely to die stateside on a training mission than in Iraq/Afghanistan or whatever other country Romney decides to invade soon.

I only wish the AF took me, but I couldn't pass the military medical. Free flight training, and I honestly never cared about the fighter squad, bomber units, I'd be just as fat/dumb/happy flying a cargo transport or a refueler. Anyway, to say that military pilots should receive preferntial interviews just for their service is a little ridiculous.

First of all, nobody really said they should get preferential treatment in hiring at the airlines; you seem to have a somewhat milder case of whatever comprehension affliction that Muppets has.

Also, you seem to be forgetting the cold war, which essentially ended only in 1989. Unless, of course, you're one of those guys who believe that surely those friendly Soviets intended to stop their takeover progress at the iron curtain line held to by the forces of NATO. That whole manifesto about making the entire world communist, by any means necessary, and actually written into their constitution, was just a big gag. There was no danger to the "freedom, rights and opportunities" of Americans (or other people) from those zany, vodka-drinking jokesters. Certainly they wouldn't have taken over any OTHER countries (I mean other than the ones they actually did, of course) if we hadn't stood up to them with actual military strength.

And plenty of airline pilots working today, served in the military in those years as cold war military personnel "fought" and sacrificed (up to and including their lives) in that particular conflict. I just thought I'd point that out to you, seeing as how your history book seems to be a little lacking.

Bubba