Poor silly fools needed at XJT

[Jump Pilot]

I guess I will or head off in another direction.

However, I hear Shuttle America may get RJ's and my former flight instructor is a captain there and maybe he can walk my resume in and....

 

[FSB99]

[B...and it will continue to be worth it for any number of aspiring airline pilots that are plugging along, building their hours in bugsmashers and night cargo.

... But in the meantime, don't pooh-pooh the new-hires that are willing to work for $20/hr in an RJ, because you were one of those new-hires once, too, and got paid even less (though not in an RJ, I imagine).[/B]

i don't disagree, and i'm not arguing. in fact, we're pretty well saying the same thing. however, my point is, i'm beginning to doubt the future of this industry. nobody's fault, and i'm not pointing fault. i took a risk, ran with it, and don't like the results. so what i'm saying is, if things remain the same, i no longer see the reward worth the risks; just a personal opinion. so if things don't change via this contract cycle, then someone else can have my seat.

 

[cynic]

Here is a clue, people LIKE YOU who took those low paying jobs, and continue to take them are shaping the future of the industry.

It will pay less and less every year and in some small part, we can that all the pilots working for peanuts for that!

Its your industry, you helped build the rules. Have fun, I'm working on my PhD and flying gliders for fun as of this month.

 

[Xfr8dog]

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[MJG]

It will pay less and less every year and in some small part, we can that all the pilots working for peanuts for that!

Hey Mr. High & Mighty, I hope they don't give you a PHD with spelling like "that".

 

[I.P. Freley]

>>>Hey Mr. High & Mighty, I hope they don't give you a PHD with spelling like "that".<<<

I counted more errors in the post than that, even... But then again, they're giving out doctorates practically as cereal treats these days.

 

[Smacktard]

Just wanted to let you Xjetrs know that the biggest idiot on this planet was just hired into your club. How he got thru all the bs is so far beyond my comprehension, that all I can do is shake my head. It's PFTers like him (it's how he built his time) that get your CEO to make comments like he does.

 

[hagen]

well what you going to do? Sh/theads get hired all the time. Thats how I got onboard..

Peace to all the silly souls out there...

 

[captjim]

well what you going to do? Sh/theads get hired all the time. Thats how I got onboard..

Peace to all the silly souls out there...

You can say that again!

 

[hagen]

Wheres my Red Card at????

 

[FlyChicaga]

The question is, how are you going to fix the rates from the outside? Get hired, and try to fix it from within.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I miss FlyChicaga's last avatar. I knew it would be pulled eventually.... *sigh*

 

[Xfr8dog]

yours still freaks me out. i have to cover it with my hand when im reading your posts!

 

[Stearmandriver]

I really hate to get embroiled in the crap on this side of the board, as I'm so far done with the airlines at this point that, if it weren't for all my friends that still want to try and make this a "career", it would be my sincere wish that the whole industry implode. However, I feel obligated to point one thing out:

Here is a clue, people LIKE YOU who took those low paying jobs, and continue to take them are shaping the future of the industry.

This implies that equal guilt lies with new hires, and those who've been working at these companies for years. This is not true. When I took a job 5 years ago at CoEx, I took a job at a turboprop airline, flying brasildos from Cleveland to Toledo. The pay was very low; however, there wasn't anyone in the country doing the same job for significantly more, so it was hard to argue that we weren't being "fairly" compensated. I never imagined that, to work for an airline operating almost 300 modern jets coast to coast in three countries and the caribbean, all I had to do was wait 5 years. And yet, here we are. And THAT'S the bitch of it: There are A LOT of people doing exactly THAT same job, and for several times the pay. THIS, I believe I can say, is unfair. And that's why it needs to change.

It astonishes me that ANYONE would voluntarily begin a career in the airlines these days; the industry's done nothing but head downhill lately, and there aren't any indications it's going to reverse itself anytime soon. Spare me the reminder that this is a "cyclical industry", "there've been downturns before", "remember the early 90's" etc. That is all true, and the industry's rebounded every time, but the difference THIS time is the RJ, and masses of young pilots lining up to do the work of major airline pilots for a fraction of the pay. I'm not acting "holier than thou", as someone else was accused of; I'm just stating facts as I see them, and I don't think anyone who applies logic to this situation can argue much. Unless someone, somewhere, makes a stand, we are all well and truly screwed.

One way or the other, I'll be done with this industry in another year or two - hopefully because I've found a decent flying job somewhere else, but if not, than because I've started over in another field. This job just isn't worth it. It's a shame; if it weren't for the ridiculous pay and treatment we get from management, it'd be a great career!