Polar Air Cargo close to an AGREEMENT

[TonyC]

Why FedEx is so preoccupied with this stike I have no idea. Don't you have bigger fish to fry.

We've already covered the why part. It's not about just little ole mar operating on his own little island where nobody gets hurt, nobody gets helped. As a matter of fact, we're in the middle of frying some pretty big fish, and we plan on enjoying a very satisfying meal.


If we strike, will you fly our struck work, too? Just because Atlas management tells you to fly Atlas airplanes? Because it's a U.S. Mail contract? What will be your "rationale" then?


It's a small, small world.



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[747Rubani]

Those struck freight rules that Alpa came up with helped a "LITTLE" bit during the first week of the polar strike. When the judge ruled in favor of Atlas and issued the TRO, struck freight rules out the window. Who's the say Fedex management wont get a TRO.
I hope things work out better for the Fedex guys than they have for Polar. If you guys go on strike I will honour you picket line, thats a no brainer.

 

[B-atch]

Short of SKY-DIVING onto their aircraft, most Atlas pilots were quite CRAFTY at finding ALTERNATE ways of avoiding the Polar PIKET LINES........

 

[Whale Rider]

I just hope the Atlas guys who opposed Polar's efforts in this strike enjoy their 20% paycut in the upcoming contract.

 

[mar]

Bug off Tony.

As a matter of fact, we're in the middle of frying some pretty big fish, and we plan on enjoying a very satisfying meal.

Then what's the problem?

Stop insinuating yourself into other's problems.

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Any details from the TA???

 

[TonyC]

Stop insinuating yourself into other's problems.

If it was just YOUR problem, mar, I would not bother, believe me. As I have explained many times before, and as you continue to refuse to comprehend, the issue has far-reaching ramifications throughout our entire industry.

A strike at any U.S. carrier has ramifications for all U.S. carriers. A strike at any cargo carrier has ramifications for all cargo carriers. A strike at a U.S. cargo carrier has tremendous ramifications for all U.S. cargo carriers. You're living in a dream world if you think you get to operate your little Atlas airplane in your own little bubble.


All in all you seem like a pretty smart fella, but for the life of me I can't figure out how you can be so dense on these issues. First you try to get a job with a company that has an IFALPA hiring ban, and now you jump through hoops to dodge ALPA picket lines. You really like to live life on the edge, dontcha?


There, nothing subtle about that - - no insinuating. I've bent over backwards to be civil and subtle, but perhaps you're more receptive to straight shooting. If you really wanted to do the RIGHT thing, you would have been looking for picket lines to impede your progress to that Atlas airplane. The judge said you didn't have to cross a picket line, and you should have taken every advantage of that order.


Yeah, I know, I wasn't there. If that makes you feel better, fine. You're the one that has to live with himself.



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[mar]

Tony you just like to argue; I have no interest.

...but perhaps you're more receptive to straight shooting...

Now you're talking.

Life on the edge: You have no idea.

 

[Biker]

Tony C.

Which company has an IFALPA hiring ban? Curious minds want to know. Can you give details on where to find this info. Thanks

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

Will It Pass?

Just spoke to a Polaroid buddy of mine, and he says that many Polar pilots are still not happy with this TA, that passed by the MEC by a 2 to 1 vote (not a good start). The reason for this, is that this TA closely resembles the offer that was on the table all along from the company, and after 2 weeks of walking this is all that was gained!

Comments?

 

[heilhaavir]

True some are disappointed but in general I think it will pass. I'm sure you'll tell me tonight if I'm wrong

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

True some are disappointed but in general I think it will pass. I'm sure you'll tell me tonight if I'm wrong

Dude,

I know it will pass, I know that no one wants to be out there walking the picket lines again and would rather be in the cockpit of a comfy 747


Good luck!

 

[Tomct]

Good Luck Polar guys/gals. Hopefully you get what you wanted! I am very greatful for you guys having the balls to walk and tell mgmnt to stick it when everyone else is CAVING!!!

 

[LeonPhelps]

IFALPA non hire list?

I'd like to piggy back on Biker's question...where would I find an IFALPA no hire list that Tony C referred to? I am about to jump out of the military, and into the civilian side of the house, and would like to start my career out on the right foot...

 

[Captain Monkey Suit]

I think they are being sarcastic...as this is the first time someone has mentioned this. I'd like to see that scab list too...

Hey...Tony C...what a great screen name...Bubble Boy...I might use this.

I hope the TA honestly works out for you guys at Polar.

 

[TonyC]

Tony C.

Which company has an IFALPA hiring ban? Curious minds want to know. Can you give details on where to find this info. Thanks

The hiring ban is no longer in effect. It was Cathay following the firing of 51 pilots. Unable to strike, they conducted an industrial action, effectively working "to rule." The hiring ban was widely publicized at the time. That's it in a nutshell.





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[TonyC]

Hey...Tony C...what a great screen name...Bubble Boy...I might use this.

Hmmmm... wonder what I missed...









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[furloughfodder]

Well, now that the strike is over, I thought I would post these "B747-300's GREATEST HITS!"

Thanks for all the laughs B747-300, you sir, are a true scab. And without further ado... an Atlas Pilots perspective on the Polar strike from our friend B747-300:

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“A long period of unemployment might help you see things more clearly.”

“The two groups working together??? What a laugh.”

”As for the guy who honored the picket line at the training center, he'll be terminated. And I don't think there's an arbitrator in the world that would overturn his termination.”

“Here's the new Atlas motto:
WE DON'T CROSS PICKET LINES........WE GO AROUND THEM”

” On the Atlas side things are going great! The planes are very full (and on time) and most guys are earning above guarantee. What little support you have remaining will be gone when the pay hits the bank! Many of us are now secretly hoping you never come back.”

” You wont fly those planes (or any others) anywhere else because you'll always be remembered as the dufus who went on strike…”

”BTW, not one Atlas pilot has crossed a Polar picket line! Absolutely true. We have had alternate entrances established and we report for work at the standard time by avoiding the picket lines.”

” I hope you've got enough people to cover all the possible entry points onto the ramps at FAI and ANC. When faced with "Fly the flight or be disciplined", I don't think too many Atlas guys are going to stick their necks out for the likes of you.”

“The 30th is the day. Nearly 100 more crewmembers will be furloughed if Polar crews don't accept what's on the table by then. I think this will continue until there is no longer a Polar Air Cargo.”

“You will still be on strike through this peak season. And the next one. And the one after that. And.....”

“Polar will be gone!”

 

[Captain Monkey Suit]

You're living in a dream world if you think you get to operate your little Atlas airplane in your own little bubble.

Here you go TonyC...never mind.

Furloughfodder...can you imagine flying with -300?! You guys know him...is he doing this for attention or is he really THIS...I'd rather not say.

 

[TonyC]

Here you go TonyC...never mind.

Ahhh, now I follow you. I thought you were talking about my screen name.


Do you remember when desktop computers were wider than they were tall, and they had a Turbo button on the front? Apparently I turned my "computer" on sans the turbo, so you'll forgive me for being a little slow.






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