Pinnacle management arrogance

[higney85]

+1. Paging PCL MEC....anyone there?

What would you like to hear?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

What would you like to hear?

What, if anything worthwhile was said on today's company conference call?

 

[kellwolf]

What, if anything worthwhile was said on today's company conference call?

Good question. I was sitting ready reserve in MEM, and I tried getting into it from 10 minutes prior to start until 10 minutes after the start. Kept getting an error. My guess? "Okay, we'll open it up to questions......oh, no questions? Guess we're done."

 

[higney85]

What, if anything worthwhile was said on today's company conference call?

Couldn't tell ya, I've been flying all day.

 

[redflyer65]

The latest is that the company will continue to do what they want whenever they want to. They have 'pants' the union for years.

I'm sure the company will come up with some 'new' DW rendition of what a merger looks like, with or without asset transfer, and the union will again be back on their heals. And the company will just say 'sue us'.

Remember the Colgan acquistion? Union was intially awarded a scope victory and the company had it re-evaluated to say the should have had a meeting prior to the purchase.

 

[RJLoser]

What would you like to hear?

PCL gave an A/C to XJ? Our union is ok with this? This (if true) is wrong on so many levels.

 

[SEVEN]

PCL gave an A/C to XJ? Our union is ok with this? This (if true) is wrong on so many levels.

This is the least of all our worries right now.

 

[Butters]

PCL gave an A/C to XJ? Our union is ok with this? This (if true) is wrong on so many levels.

Mesaba will operate 1 Pinnacle CRJ 200 for 60 days because Pinnacle does not have enough pilots.

As I understand (and I could be wrong), your contract allows aircraft to be moved to another certificate for up to 60 days. Is that true?

In an case, the real problem here is Pinnacle's inability to staff the airline properly. That's the issue that needs to be addressed.

I also think this is only the beginning of the aircraft shell game we are all in for.

 

[higney85]

Butters got it.

 

[RJLoser]

This is the least of all our worries right now.

Sorry...This will be the first in many worries you will be a part of.

 

[redflyer65]

I agree.

Sit back and watch how PCL management will get away with the cheapest version of operating three carriers, all while pushing the Pinnacle pilot agreement back even longer...

They will use the Clinton method of what the definition of 'is' is. Watch the DW spin.

 

[SEVEN]

Sorry...This will be the first in many worries you will be a part of.

Not from what I've been hearing lately. The XJ guys/gals will not be thrown under the bus. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[RJLoser]

Not from what I've been hearing lately. The XJ guys/gals will not be thrown under the bus. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Not what I was saying seven. I have no doubt XJ pilots will fair pretty well if they are jet guys coming to 9E. Just that you are coming to a bad place. The worries come with being on property not the integration.

 

[scooter mack]

Yea, when we got the memo is said "Comair is the go-to-carrier for Delta. :laugh:

Good luck in JFK and wait, wait, wait for it..... an eventual co-base with LGA.

Hope you guys have contract wording preventing it and the MEC doesn't give in. I know that Comair threatened and then begged for a co-domicile but the MEC wouldn't cough it up unless they provided transportation back in forth so that you released where you began. Company wouldn't do it, and the union wouldn't give in.

Really? Are you sure about that? Not entirely true.

 

[kellwolf]

Not from what I've been hearing lately. The XJ guys/gals will not be thrown under the bus. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Anything about anyone getting better treatment or being thrown under the bus is pure posturing and speculation at this point. If a 9E guy says we're gonna come out on top, he's full of it. If an XJ guy says they're not gonna get thrown under the bus, same applies. Fact is no one knows ANYTHING, and anyone that claims they do is just starving for attention.

 

[i fly boxes]

message to mesaba pilots - there are a couple senior captains going around - one of them a DTW guy who just thinks he is right about everything saying that pinnacle is going to start transfering planes from mesaba to pinnacle in december and that they are going to furlough mesaba pilots and hire them on the bottom of the pinnacle list. If you hear these people spreading this around - just know it is completely false. Things will be done as fairly as possible according to our contracts. Nothing will be done at all until our contract is finished. Don't let these low lifes spread these rumors.

 

[Flyer1015]

Mesaba will operate 1 Pinnacle CRJ 200 for 60 days because Pinnacle does not have enough pilots.

As I understand (and I could be wrong), your contract allows aircraft to be moved to another certificate for up to 60 days. Is that true?

In an case, the real problem here is Pinnacle's inability to staff the airline properly. That's the issue that needs to be addressed.

I also think this is only the beginning of the aircraft shell game we are all in for.

Amazing. And our CP had the audacity to tell us that if we hired during the summer, we may have to furlough them in the fall when the block hours fell. Instead, we ended up furloughing a CRJ to Mesaba. Hahahahahaaaa! She's back on 9E property now, but I think this is just the beginning of the shell game.

 

[Speedtape]

ASA is the Delta go to airline. Our D.O. said so in a recurrent ground school about a month ago. And then, he gave us a "Thank you for what you do everyday" line.

 

[belchfire]

ASA is the Delta go to airline. Our D.O. said so in a recurrent ground school about a month ago. And then, he gave us a "Thank you for what you do everyday" line.

All DO's have a line of fertilizer like that. I was in Enemy HQ one day at a former job and this weasel in a shirt and tie comes up, starts shaking my hand and thanking me for all the hard work...Fortunately being new I held my peace instead of blurting out to the secretary "Who the F@Uk was that dip******************** ?!?!?!?"

I was a new hire and was waiting for some paperwork in the office. Had no fracking idea who the idiot was (yep, the DO) until a day or two later when he came by the classroom to blow smoke up our anal orifices!