Pinnacle, can You believe this....

[jetflier]

Ken, now that you admit that you were the NWA pilot on scene maybe you can clear up a few details for us.

In your first post you said, in one paragraph, that you arrived before fueling started. In another paragraph, you said that you arrived after fueling started. Which one is it?

Also in post #23 of this thread you said "I think he arrived after the Pinnacle CA had began refueling"

What do you mean, "I think"? You were there, you should know.

I'm still calling BS on this whole thread.

are you for real?

Nobody could possibly be such a jerk.

I flew for a regional airline for 7 years, and you're a winner.....really.......
I hope that you fly a jet with more professionalism than what comes out of your mouth.

I am the capt....period. Call your Chief pilot and ask, if you dare.....maybe he already knows your name because of your performance, maybe not. ...smile you could make a difference...........are you a captain?

 

[DoinTime]

are you for real?

Nobody could possibly be such a jerk.

I flew for a regional airline for 7 years, and you're a winner.....really.......
I hope that you fly a jet with more professionalism than what comes out of your mouth.

I am the capt....period. Call your Chief pilot and ask, if you dare.....maybe he already knows your name because of your performance, maybe not. ...smile you could make a difference...........are you a captain?

I think he is for real and he posed legitimate questions. Your refusal to answer them and this "I'm the captain" bullsh*t only solidify the fact that you are lying.

 

[dondk]

there was a Female Ca in SYR, she did not have an APU deferral, although she did have an APU gen deferral. APU was operational.

There was a male CA in SYR with a APU deferral, although not on the date jetflier states. The time is slightly in question but that is really nit-picking and I am not going there.

I was not there, and the "possible" female CA is not a spring chicken to the left seat, she has been in it for some time.

The unsafe culture at 9E could be expressed in NWA's way to get the job done the cheapest. It is NWA management which dictates what happens at the airlinks. That starts in the upper management of the respective airlinks and filters all the way down to the troops on the front line.Those of who go to work each day do our best to be as safe as possible. I am saddened that some of our NWA brethren need to look down upon us.

I would much rather have the support than the negativity, right up to the point of calling us unsafe or unprofessional. Walk in my shoes with my management before casting a stone at our pilot group.

Why sex is/was an issue from the beginning still has me perplexed.

 

[jetflier]

I think he is for real and he posed legitimate questions. Your refusal to answer them and this "I'm the captain" bullsh*t only solidify the fact that you are lying.

Dointime,

Why don't You call your boss, the chief pilot of Pinnacle and ask him. And then , please post his responce here on this board, instead of your BS.

I feel sorry fo the f/o's who have to put up with your unprofessional BS.

Maybe thats why you're so frustrated..... You'll never leave 9E., while others do....there is a way to pick out wierdos like you.

Thank God!

 

[DoinTime]

Dointime,

Why don't You call your boss, the chief pilot of Pinnacle and ask him. And then , please post his responce here on this board, instead of your BS.

Ask him what? He wasn't there....you were. What do you have to hide Ken?

 

[jetflier]

Ask him what? He wasn't there....you were. What do you have to hide Ken?

Ask your boss anything you want about syr, he recd the call from nwa soc chief dispatcher about 1300 syr time, and this incident, unless you have something to hide from, your chief pilot. Do you have something to hide? Or are you just wierd? Please tell the rest of us as we want to know. We're waiting, for your answer.

Ken

 

[Nindiri]

Hot refueling when required has been around at numerous airlines for years. Why was an experienced mainline capt apparently unaware of this fact?

 

[jetflier]

Ask him what? He wasn't there....you were. What do you have to hide Ken?

You are so wierd you're scary.


check my post for the time and date, I have nothing to hide.

However you sound like you are hiding behind your BS.

 

[DoinTime]

Hot refueling when required has been around at numerous airlines for years. Why was an experienced mainline capt apparently unaware of this fact?

Because he is not really a pilot at all. He is just some punk thats out surfing on his mom's computer.

 

[CurlyD777]

Here's the deal. Everyone is sitting in front of their computers right now, trying to think how they are right and everyone else is wrong. Can't we all get along?, since the only thing that really matters with every company, red tail or other, is safety. Isn't it everyone's responsibility to address it, even if it is an inconvience. There is no such thing as stepping on someone's shoes when it comes to safety. I can see that with 9 pages of bashing everyone else, some people still don't have that as a priority. I don't care if a 152 driver comes up to me with 8 hours on his first solo and tells me he believes something is unsafe. Before I go getting all pissed off with the world, I think I would address the issue. Theres more important things to worry about that who is telling who what to do.

Good grief.

 

[jetflier]

Here's the deal. Everyone is sitting in front of their computers right now, trying to think how they are right and everyone else is wrong. Can't we all get along?, since the only thing that really matters with every company, red tail or other, is safety. Isn't it everyone's responsibility to address it, even if it is an inconvience. There is no such thing as stepping on someone's shoes when it comes to safety. I can see that with 9 pages of bashing everyone else, some people still don't have that as a priority. I don't care if a 152 driver comes up to me with 8 hours on his first solo and tells me he believes something is unsafe. Before I go getting all pissed off with the world, I think I would address the issue. Theres more important things to worry about that who is telling who what to do.

Good grief.

exactly!

 

[jetflier]

Because he is not really a pilot at all. He is just some punk thats out surfing on his mom's computer.

As I said ....You are scarey......I can't believe that you were hired as an airline pilot..............by vindicating unsafe practices you are the one looking like you are not an airline pilot...aty least one I would feel safe putting my kids on.....

 

[RampTower]

The preliminary report on the MKE accident baffles me.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20050317X00323&key=1

The airplane departed the left side of the runway about 4,600 feet from the approach end of runway 1L. The airplane veered across the grass infield before crossing runway 07R/25L. The airplane traveled through the intersection of taxiways A, E, and T before crossing another snow-covered grass in-field where the aircraft went through a snow bank and back onto taxiway B. The airplane stopped near the intersection of taxiway B and M in front of concourse D.

The captain reported that nothing appeared to be wrong with the airplane so the decision was made to taxi to gate E64.

Sliding off the runway, skipping across taxiways, grass infields, crossing another runway, etc wouldn't give you any doubt in the integrity of the aircraft?

An examination of the airplane revealed that the forward pressure bulkhead at Fuselage Station 202.75 was compromised. The flaps, the main landing gear doors, the nose landing gear, and various skin panels also were damaged during the accident.

And Pinnacle folks can honestly and legitimately argue with no doubt that the aircraft is fixable?? C'mon...

 

[PCL_128]

Sliding off the runway, skipping across taxiways, grass infields, crossing another runway, etc wouldn't give you any doubt in the integrity of the aircraft?

This guy was an idiot. Plain and simple moron. No doubt about it.

An examination of the airplane revealed that the forward pressure bulkhead at Fuselage Station 202.75 was compromised. The flaps, the main landing gear doors, the nose landing gear, and various skin panels also were damaged during the accident.

And Pinnacle folks can honestly and legitimately argue with no doubt that the aircraft is fixable?? C'mon...

I can only tell you what maintenance says. According to them, the airplane will be fixed and back on the line.

 

[405]

Hmmm...

I did a little research in my spare time at work today and found a few items of interest. First off, 9E has two flights a day from SYR and both are to MSP. The first flight is at 0600L and the second is at 1410L. Second, as jetflier stated, the CA on the flight on the 21st (of April I assume) at or around 1300L was female. A quick glance in SBS today shows that the CA on the 1410L flight on 21 April was NOT female. There was no crew swap at the outstation. Also, I checked diversion logs and extra stop logs. Guess what? Nothing.

There was only one APU defer in the last 8 days going to SYR and the CA was male.

I just thought I'd pass this along.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Thanks dd for your support.

I can't believe all the occurances that 9E has had since Dec 2004, including the fl410 fatal crash.

The commuter that I worked for for seven years never had one fatal accident....com to think of it we never had one accident.....but you did have to have approx 3500 hours tt to get hired.

Nuf said...........

NVM, realized I was getting into an argument on the internet

 

[redflyer65]

Nidiri hit the nail on the head, if jetflier has been at a regional for 7yrs. and at NWA for however many more and hasn't heard of hot-fueling, then there is something wrong. Hot-fueling happens everyday at alot of airports around the country and he's never seen it? Come on. As long as its done correctly, no problem. This part of the story stinks.

 

[PCL_128]

Jetliar, I noticed that your Current Position in your profile changed from 757 to DC9 Captain as soon as someone pointed out that there is no 757 service to SYR. Pretty interesting coincidence. Flamebait. This is getting old.

 

[Nindiri]

Jetliar, I noticed that your Current Position in your profile changed from 757 to DC9 Captain as soon as someone pointed out that there is no 757 service to SYR. Pretty interesting coincidence.

Busted

 

[psycho]

Yeah,

Chiming in a little late, but sounds like urban legend or embellishment to me. Don't believe an NWA mainline bruthu is so bored that he would pull that kind of keystone cop routine. Those guys are way too classy for that action.

As for you leardrvr... Sorry you won't fly pinnacle, I will miss flying your kids to the special olympics and digging out those seat belt extensions for you and "The Misses"

 

[jetflier]

Busted

As a new user I decided to change it as I mentioned in a previous post, coinciding to a return to a previous position, (DC9 ca)......

 

[jetflier]

Nidiri hit the nail on the head, if jetflier has been at a regional for 7yrs. and at NWA for however many more and hasn't heard of hot-fueling, then there is something wrong. Hot-fueling happens everyday at alot of airports around the country and he's never seen it? Come on. As long as its done correctly, no problem. This part of the story stinks.

My previous experience for Command Airways and Pan Am Express was before jets........1984-1991.... we never refuled with a prop turning, it could hurt someone!

 

[405]

"Ken"

There was no 9E female CA on April 21st at about 1300L in SYR. No APU defers either.

No reason (that I can see) to hot refuel. What were your flight numbers that day? I'd be more than happy to call the NWA chief dispatcher and ask a few questions reference April 21st.

 

[jetflier]

I did a little research in my spare time at work today and found a few items of interest. First off, 9E has two flights a day from SYR and both are to MSP. The first flight is at 0600L and the second is at 1410L. Second, as jetflier stated, the CA on the flight on the 21st (of April I assume) at or around 1300L was female. A quick glance in SBS today shows that the CA on the 1410L flight on 21 April was NOT female. There was no crew swap at the outstation. Also, I checked diversion logs and extra stop logs. Guess what? Nothing.

There was only one APU defer in the last 8 days going to SYR and the CA was male.

I just thought I'd pass this along.

I just wrote what I observed, and personally witnessed....no more no less......I have no hidden agenda to tell lies.....

 

[405]

I just wrote what I observed, and personally witnessed....no more no less......I have no hidden agenda to tell lies.....

I'm just telling you and everyone else here that I have found nothing that backs your story up.

Added:

"Ken", see post #149 if you haven't already.

 

[PCL_128]

I just wrote what I observed, and personally witnessed....no more no less......I have no hidden agenda to tell lies.....

You absolutely do have an agenda. Just like TRAINING and Rhoid you have come here to post flamebait to cause a big fight. At that, you have been succesful. Again, if this is your only source of amusement, then you are one sad little man.

 

[Towelie]

Hey Ramptower,

Ask any PNL guy if PNL has ever crashed an airplane before Jeff City. They will tell you, "no." Express crashed the J41 in Hibbing, not PNL.

J-31, not J-41.

Who cares who crashed what anyway?

 

[FN FAL]

J-31, not J-41.

Who cares who crashed what anyway?

Really, "one level of safety" hasn't changed much in the industry and there will always be airline crashes. The only thing we need to have happen to end this argument is for one of the other carriers to bang one in and it will be 'pick on them' time.

 

[EatSleepFly]

I did a little research in my spare time at work today and found a few items of interest.

Ditto. I don't have a dog in this fight so I wasn't going to make a post, but I have access to flight tracking software. Yesterday out of sheer boredom, I went back and looked at all the PCL and NWA flights on 4/21 at SYR. Something about this "story" sure doesn't add up.

 

[FlyChicaga]

The flamebags are coming out of the woodwork! Quick, someone burn the nest!

This thread has become a bigger joke than Rhoid/Training/8HRRULE's heterosexuality.