Pinnacle and UAL agree on terms....More Q's?

[badog]

Somebody just added EMB135s outta EWR to cover Colgan flying? Who and when was this?

Expressjet, last week....

 

[silver02ex]

They already pulled 5 emb 135's outta the bone yard to cover some ewr stuff for colgan. Word is they want 15 more? How's that for info?

What does that have anything to do with my post? I said you can't move those Q's from one airline to another since they don't belong to United. I didn't say anything about moving routes around.

Just because the E-135 is coving some of the Q's routes doesn't mean the Q's are going away. There's lots of Colgan guys going to the jet and lots of training going on from people jumping certificate. Do ever think that they can't staff all the Q's has something to do with it?

 

[Flyer1015]

So in other words, United basically has a backup plan for a scenario of no more Qs at Pinnacle/Colgan. This drawdown will be more quicker and painless than I thought.

 

[duc driver]

nevermind.

 

[Indy319FA]

What does that have anything to do with my post? I said you can't move those Q's from one airline to another since they don't belong to United. I didn't say anything about moving routes around.

Just because the E-135 is coving some of the Q's routes doesn't mean the Q's are going away. There's lots of Colgan guys going to the jet and lots of training going on from people jumping certificate. Do ever think that they can't staff all the Q's has something to do with it?

Due to staffing issues, Pinnacle Corp came to agreement with UAL and DAL to pull down utilization on the Q and the CRJ starting in January until the 11-09 award is implemented late this year.

 

[Flyer1015]

More Qs? When pigs fly...

 

[RJLoser]

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engin..._campaign=Feed:+AtwDailyNews+(ATW+Daily+News)

 

[Carl_Spackler]

Can you cut and paste? Tells me access denied.

 

[RJLoser]

Can you cut and paste? Tells me access denied.

Try this:

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/unidentified-customer-orders-five-q400s-0213


An unidentified airline has signed a firm agreement for five Bombardier Q400 NextGen aircraft; the order is valued at approximately $160 million based on list prices.

“Q400 and Q400 NextGen aircraft have been gaining headway in markets around the world, and approximately 40 operators now have these aircraft in service or on firm order,” said Bombardier Commercial Aircraft president Mike Arcamone. “Q400 aircraft have transformed the perception of turboprops, and as airlines and other operators benefit from the aircraft’s advanced capabilities, the turboprop lives on.”

 

[silver02ex]

If we can't even make payments on the current Q400, how can we buy more. The only way I see it is, Pinnacle has worked out a deal with UAL and we don't know about it yet.

 

[Kaman]

Very unlikely that these airplanes are for PNCL corp. Probably for an Asian carrier or another Euro airline is going to the "Q" Profits

 

[Ridgeback]

Clues

PNCL 1. Get's lending arm of Bombardier to change terms of current lease
2. PNCL had to exercise options by the end of March 2012, BTW options are not free there is cost to them
3. United scope clause not going to be relaxed anytime soon
4. Stock price has been trading up
5. Fuel predicted to soar this summer, Iran...Global recovery, and so on
6. Waited to talk to ALPA last...Need to bring a carrot to the bargaining table

 

[RJLoser]

Are you saying if PCL made the deal with UAL the pilots rejecting a cut would negate the deal?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Are you saying if PCL made the deal with UAL the pilots rejecting a cut would negate the deal?

History would say no. But who knows.

 

[SEVEN]

"BIG" announcement today in correlation with Corp's 4th quarter earnings? Still waiting.

 

[jynxyjericho]

"BIG" announcement today in correlation with Corp's 4th quarter earnings? Still waiting.

It's not f u friday already is it?

 

[WIPilot]

"BIG" announcement today in correlation with Corp's 4th quarter earnings? Still waiting.

There may be an announcement, but this rumor that it is based off the fourth quarter earnings call is completely false.

From the latest SEC filing on 2/7/2012:
Item 8.01 Other Events As previously disclosed, the Company is currently executing initiatives to increase its short-term and long-term liquidity and reduce costs. Given the substantial time and resources focused on these efforts, the Company is still finalizing its financial results for the quarter and year ended December 31, 2011. As a result, the Company does not anticipate releasing fourth quarter 2011 earnings, filing its 2011 Form 10-K, or hosting its quarterly earnings call until a not yet determined date in March 2012.

 

[bri5150]

Are you saying if PCL made the deal with UAL the pilots rejecting a cut would negate the deal?

If all of this is true, then that is what management is going to tell us. Mesaba did this in '05, ALPA said f off to paycuts and we got the 200's anyways. Well, 2 of them at least, but that is a different story.

 

[Ridgeback]

Not PNCL

Ethiopian Airlines Revealed as Customer for Five Q400 NextGen Turboprops
by STAFF on FEBRUARY 16, 2012

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Bombardier Aerospace has confirmed Ethiopian Airlines to be the customer which placed a firm order for five Q400 NextGen regional airliners on February 13, 2012.

Two of the five fast-turboprop aircraft will be operated by Ethiopian Airlines and three by its affiliate, ASKY Airlines of Togo.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Stop ridge, you are crushing people's blind and worthless hope.