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Pilots with a CDL

HU-16

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I'm currently going to flight school in FL, but I'm home for awhile over the holidays. I used to drive a truck for my fathers business that required a Class B CDL, which I no longer hold. (They wouldn't renew it without a DOT medical, so I let it go) My question is, if I'm go drive truck for a few days while I'm home and something happens in which I get some sort of ticket for not having the CDL would it look really bad on my record? Particularily at interviews and such. I may worry too much, but I really don't want to shoot myself in the foot this early in the game! Thanks to all and Merry Christmas!
 

skydiverdriver

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YES! Any airline interview is going to be more difficult if you have any laws broken in your past. Many airlines ask to see a 10 year driving record, and with all of the recent events, I would expect airline hiring and security to increase exponentially. I would recommend you break no laws for any reason. I would hate to hear that making a few extra bucks over the holidays prevented you from realizing your dream. Just a word of caution.
 

MetroSheriff

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Many airlines ask to see a 10 year driving record, and with all of the recent events, I would expect airline hiring and security to increase exponentially. I would recommend you break no laws for any reason.

Yes, given all the new and well thought out security directives coming forth from the FAA, when you go to your next airline interview, you will be required to remove your shoes, socks, and belt prior to the personal interview....<grin>
 

wildbill

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Why not go back to the doctor who gave you a flight physical and ask him to just fill out the form. He may charge you a few extra dollars, but the physical is the same except for the forms used. I too hold a class A cdl which I am forced to use during lean times such as now. When I get my 1st class I just ask the doctor to do both forms and he charges no more. As for taking chances, be careful, they are checking more and more drivers for paperwork and if you screw up, you are on the national drivers registry because it is a cdl. Not just your state. That cdl can be a problem even if you do something in your personal vehicle. It goes national. Best of luck

Bill:)
 

TurboS7

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What they are looking for is are you going with the system or bucking it. Don't take the chance, it shows willingness to bend the rules, bad dodo.
 

EJA_Bound

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What the airlines think is just a small detail. You might want to check into just the fines alone. It gets extremely expensive for both the driver and company. Last Commercial Vehicle Trooper I talked, up here, it was $5,000 to the driver and $10,000 to the company (or something close to that.)

Soon to be in similar circumstance. I'm planning on attending FSI in Oct. of 2002 or Jan. of 2003. Which school are you attending?
 

sim66

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ACA didn't give me an interview because I had a speeding ticket within the past 5 years. How's that for horse**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** !
 

bobbysamd

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CDL

I agree wholeheartedly with the others. Don't do things you're not supposed to do. Airlines look for hazardous or dangerous tendencies in applicants. If you're perceived as willful or too independent, you'll be sent home. One of the five hazardous attitudes which are taught in ADM include anti-authority; Don't tell me what to do. The antidote: Follow the rules; they're usually right.
 

Airbus300

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Some food for thought. My cousin was driving a truck in the family business and got into an accident. He was properly certified, and the accident wasn't his fault. Someone hit a vehicle from behind, and pushed that car into my cousins lane. He didn't have time to stop, and ended up squashing the car----and killing a 12 year old girl. It wasn't his fault, but the courts still awarded her parents $500,000. Could you imagine what the award would be if he wasn't even certified to be driving the truck that day?
(The guy who caused the accident in the first car didn't have any insurance, and was borrowing his girlfriends car.)
 

1900Skipper

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I agree with all above. Keep your nose clean! A friend did not get a dream job with UAL because of his driving record.

Good Luck!!
 

ms6073

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HU-16 said:
I used to drive a truck for my fathers business that required a Class B CDL, which I no longer hold. (They wouldn't renew it without a DOT medical, so I let it go) My question is, if I'm go drive truck for a few days while I'm home and something happens in which I get some sort of ticket for not having the CDL would it look really bad on my record?

Isnt that sort of like flying checks or freight while possessing only a private pilot's certificate? Assuming you would not do that, why would you then ask the masses if it is okay for to break the rules for another profession?
:rolleyes:
 

HU-16

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OkOK

I realize that many of you thought my question was a little stupid, but I was just curious if it would be worse than a speeding ticket on my record. Anyhow to make a long story short, I just received my new license. The lady at the DMV told me it wouldn't be a Class B CDL, well it is. Although I don't have a current medical, so it isn't valid. And as far as flying checks with a private pilots license, I understand your point but you missed a few things. I had a license in the past, just not a current one. And since the boss helps pay for my flying, I'm more than willing to help him out in a pinch. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little.
 

ms6073

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Well actually I understand giving/getting very well but I am trying to make a point but my analogy was not very good. So, here is a better attempt. To put this in perspective then what you are asking us is do we think it is okay for you to drive a truck in commercial operations. You have a commercial license but in the state in which you will operate this vehicle a medical exam is required to exercise the priviliges of your license. Unfortunately your commercial drivers license medical exam is expired and needs to be renewed for you to be legal on the road right?

Now dont misunderstand, I am not looking for a flame war or an argument but from a liability standpoint, what would be the difference between this and flying an aircaft in commercial operations without a valid medical certificate. You cant act as pilot in command in that example so my question for you is why should it be any different on the highways and byways? I realize that you are not likely to have an inccident or accident but the rules and regualtions are there for a reason. Think of the consequences should one occur. You would be liable (possibly criminally liable) should something happen. Do you really want to risk a career on that?
 
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