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no1pilot2000

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As pilots learn to fly more sophisticated aircraft, especially the newer commercial and business jets , are pilots losing their basic flying skills? On one hand, there's Capt. Sullenberger who safely landed his Airbus in the Hudson River. On the other hand, there's the two Northwest Airlines pilot who cared more about "whatever" they were doing, but not flying the plane that went hundreds of miles off course. Are some airline pilots and other pilots who flying business jets with similar technology becoming more automated than the airplanes they fly?
 
As pilots learn to fly more sophisticated aircraft, especially the newer commercial and business jets , are pilots losing their basic flying skills? On one hand, there's Capt. Sullenberger who safely landed his Airbus in the Hudson River. On the other hand, there's the two Northwest Airlines pilot who cared more about "whatever" they were doing, but not flying the plane that went hundreds of miles off course. Are some airline pilots and other pilots who flying business jets with similar technology becoming more automated than the airplanes they fly?

This sounds like that chick's inner monologue from "sex and the city".

Sincerely,

B. Franklin
 
As pilots learn to fly more sophisticated aircraft, especially the newer commercial and business jets , are pilots losing their basic flying skills? On one hand, there's Capt. Sullenberger who safely landed his Airbus in the Hudson River. On the other hand, there's the two Northwest Airlines pilot who cared more about "whatever" they were doing, but not flying the plane that went hundreds of miles off course. Are some airline pilots and other pilots who flying business jets with similar technology becoming more automated than the airplanes they fly?

I wouldn't describe what Sully did as "Basic Flying Skills". The guy is one level above Chuck Yeager IMO. What was your question again???:smash:
 
I wouldn't describe what Sully did as "Basic Flying Skills". The guy is one level above Chuck Yeager IMO.
Why is that? Suppose the same flock of geese were struck in Phoenix with no place to land and there were no survivors. Would he have been just another shmoe that crashed an airplane?

Statistically there will eventually be an incident where all the variables line up in your favor and this was that time. No extrordinary piloting skill was involved. Had any one of the variables been different, the outcome would likely have been tragic, but those were not under Sully's control.
 
I wouldn't describe what Sully did as "Basic Flying Skills". The guy is one level above Chuck Yeager IMO. What was your question again???:smash:

Don't get carried away. Sully's greatest achievement on that flight was to recognize the futility (and danger) of trying for an airport. Making the call to put an aircraft into the river took balls, big'uns, considering the track record of water ditchings over the years.

That being said, the technology of airbus played a larger role in the successful outcome of the actual landing than true "stick and rudder" flying. Pretty nice when one can hold the stick full aft and have the airplane ensure sufficient AOA/Airspeed to maintain control about all three axis.

Technology greatly aided the brilliant decision making ability of an experienced pilot.

You can get off of your knees and simply shake the man's hand and say "good call" if you see him.

-Runner
 
Yes I'm pretty sure its easy to deadstick any transport category jet into a water a landing with no casualties.
Sully did a great job no question, all you little penis pilots should get off his case.
 

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