Pilot Shortage

[skydiverdriver2]

Sorry, what's a DEC?

 

[paulsalem]

Sorry, what's a DEC?

No problem. Direct Entry Captains.

 

[El Duque]

I am starting to get pretty curious about some of these foreign outfits. I know about Emirates, FlyDubai, and Cathay. Do you guys know of any other carriers that would be worth looking into? Is there a website or anything out there that would be a good resource for finding out about other carriers? I have a family and I am mostly interested in jobs like Emirates that allow you to live abroad with your family.

 

[atpcliff]

airlinepilotcentral.com has info, and professionalpilotworld.com has job openings and info.

The best foreign website is pprune.org: Warning-there are LOTS of whiners on pprune, way more than on the us websites, but less fighting.

China has TONS of jobs where you can live there. Qatar, based in Doha, is very similar to Emirates, but not as good. There are contract jobs in Africa where you can live there, also. India and Vietnam, as well as other SE Asian contracts you can also move to.

KAL and Japan contracts are mostly commuting, I believe.

Sri Lankan Airlines is now hiring-it seemed like a nice place to live, and a number of expat pilots.

cliff
DKR

 

[atpcliff]

http://www.srilankan.lk/about-srilanka/careers/flight-crew.html

For most people, Sri Lanka is a dream destination. For you, it could be home.
Enjoy the benefits of job security, renewable contracts, stable roster patterns, Commuting roster on wide body aircraft, excellent healthcare, loss-of-license insurance, a competitive tax-free monthly remuneration package inclusive of type and housing allowance, end of service bonus and employer contribution, allowances for meals and child education, mixed fleet flying facilities for Commanders and of course a summer that lasts 365 days.
Minimum qualifications: :
Rated First Officers on A340 should have 500 P2 Hrs on each aircraft type.
ICAO/JAA/CPL can be considered with a low salary package.

License requirements:
A valid ATPL acceptable to the Sri Lankan Licensing Authority.
The License and Class 1 Medical must be current and under one Authority.
CV's should be e-mailed to [email protected]

 

[Dumb Pilot]

I am starting to get pretty curious about some of these foreign outfits. I know about Emirates, FlyDubai, and Cathay. Do you guys know of any other carriers that would be worth looking into? Is there a website or anything out there that would be a good resource for finding out about other carriers? I have a family and I am mostly interested in jobs like Emirates that allow you to live abroad with your family.

My recommendation is to target some of the head hunter agencies first, the world of contract/foreign airline flying is vast and plentiful (if you have the correct background) start by posting your profile in companies like PARC, Rishworth, Wasinc, CREW (a google search will give you a starting point for crew leasing companies) it will take you a little while to do so because airlines abroad want specific times, like they want PIC/ IMC and SIC / IMC times separated so you will have to do a little homework. Once you are a member and your profile is posted, you can scroll thru literally dozens of jobs for which they do recruit for, there are a lot of resident contracts but there are some commuting contracts as well. Apply to the jobs you are curious about even if you don't meet a specific requirement like "500 hours on type" right now it seems that if you are an experienced pilot and have time in anything larger than lets say a 737 (I see that in your profile you have the md-80, is this PIC time?) they will look at you, the Middle East and Asia is where the most growth and the better terms and conditions are right now.


Good luck

 

[El Duque]

Thanks a lot, I'll check these out. I haven't updated my profile in quite a while but yeah my md-80 time is pic.

 

[ualdriver]

My recommendation is to target some of the head hunter agencies first, the world of contract/foreign airline flying is vast and plentiful (if you have the correct background) start by posting your profile in companies like PARC, Rishworth, Wasinc, CREW (a google search will give you a starting point for crew leasing companies) it will take you a little while to do so because airlines abroad want specific times, like they want PIC/ IMC and SIC / IMC times separated so you will have to do a little homework. Once you are a member and your profile is posted, you can scroll thru literally dozens of jobs for which they do recruit for, there are a lot of resident contracts but there are some commuting contracts as well. Apply to the jobs you are curious about even if you don't meet a specific requirement like "500 hours on type" right now it seems that if you are an experienced pilot and have time in anything larger than lets say a 737 (I see that in your profile you have the md-80, is this PIC time?) they will look at you, the Middle East and Asia is where the most growth and the better terms and conditions are right now.


Good luck

Holy crap. PIC and SIC IMC time? Does any airline guy log that anymore? I'd be screwed if I had to figure that out

 

[atpcliff]

MD-80 PIC time (glass and big jet) is good. I met the mins for EK, but was never called, and was told that while DC-9 met the mins, they really wanted glass....they said if I got MD-80 PIC time they would call for sure.

Also, many intntl places want P1 US time. That is when you are acting as the Captain under supervision. So, if you are in Capt upgrade, that is P1 US. Also, if you have a PIC type rating, and you are actively flying the aircraft that leg (as the SIC), then that is P1 US of the captain. Some of the apps I filled out asked for P1 (PIC) day/night/cross country, P1 US day/night/cross country, P2 (SIC) day/night/cross country, etc.

Good luck!
cliff
GRB

 

[fareview]

EVA Air now hiring again...good place for RJ guys to get heavy time.

fv

 

[atpcliff]

Sri Lankan Airlines is also hiring, and hiring expats both for capt and fo.

cliff
GRB

 

[Varmint]

Sri Lankan Airlines is also hiring, and hiring expats both for capt and fo.

cliff
GRB

I think they are hiring A340 guys, right? If so, I wonder if they are taking on some of EK's retiring A340 airframes. I heard that EK was having problems unloading those things.

 

[ualdriver]

All these big, international airlines with anticipated "pilot shortages" would have to do is open a pilot domicile or two in the US. After that, they would have all the pilots they could ever want, especially if they continued offer compensation packages anywhere near what they offer overseas. He11, just having a car to come pick up a pilot at home would probably generate a full HR inbox of resumes

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

All these big, international airlines with anticipated "pilot shortages" would have to do is open a pilot domicile or two in the US. After that, they would have all the pilots they could ever want, especially if they continued offer compensation packages anywhere near what they offer overseas. He11, just having a car to come pick up a pilot at home would probably generate a full HR inbox of resumes

I think that a good part of the reason that the pay is high is because fewer people want to make the required move, thus less applicants. If US bases were opened, then there would be more applicants and the compensation would go down. Simply put, supply and demand.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

He11, just having a car to come pick up a pilot at home would probably generate a full HR inbox of resumes

The little perks make a big difference don't they?

Rarely an MEL (I average about one or two MEL's per year)
Plenty of fuel on arrival
Always a clean cockpit
Motivated cabin and costumer service personnel
Never waited for ground crews to park us (not even once on the past 5 years)
Never waited for ground transportation anymore than 10 minutes (95% of the time they are already waiting)
They run a flight crew oriented operation, you ask for more fuel, different route, whatever it may be and they just go and get it done for you, that is it!
They dry clean your uniforms for you
They just don't bother you on your days off
Business class commute and you get to keep the miles and that brings many other perks once you get Diamond status.

I know not all the jobs abroad are good and that working overseas is not for everyone but there are few of us that actually enjoy it