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redd said:
This is the same sheriff that makes inmates wear pink underwear and pink jumpsuits and who also makes them sleep outside in tents in the summer in 115 degree heat during the day and about 100 degrees at night.

I --and 60+% of Maricopa County Voters-- don't have a problem with that...but this department has had it's share of boners...remember the "Joe Arizona" incident?

Some actor who had formerly played a character named "Joe Arizona" in a some political commercials was downtown for Halloween or some other holiday dressed up in an untucked DPS trooper uniform shirt with a plastic badge, a pair of the famous "pink underwear," cowboy boots and a goofy hat.

A sheriff's detective was eating lunch at a local establishment and spotted this dude. He called DPS and described the uniform and told the DPS duty officer that the guy needed a "big fat ticket" for impersonating an officer.:rolleyes:

I think that DPS arrived, met with the detective and subsequently left without citing the guy (if I remember right...or perhaps they didn't think the "call" was priority enough for them to get there within a short period of time)...either way, the DPS didn't get the guy cited, so someone from the Sheriff's office did it.:rolleyes:

The leadership of the MCSO's official stance was to stand by their officer and that the they were gonna "let the courts decide" if the charges were warranted. But to their credit, the citation unceremoniously "went away" a few weeks after the initial to-do with a short statement that said something about judicial priorities.

Hopefully such will happen in this case.

I don't have a problem overall with the MCSO, but, like any department, it employs a few people who lack the ability to step back and make a reasonable judgement as to whether their actions serve the interest of justice.
 
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TDTURBO said:
I know what I'll be doing next time up, hmmmm, need lots of flour and toilet paper. I just need to figure out what to attack.

Maybe a Michael Jackson Support Rally!:)
Just be carefull you don't spill your coffee while doing this, I'd hate to see an NTSB report that cited the pilot as being "papier mache'd" in the causal factor for the crash.
 
So was the gatorade bottle full of urine that I was forced to "jettison" a while back was a biological weapon?
 
Cardinal said:
So was the gatorade bottle full of urine that I was forced to "jettison" a while back a biological weapon?
No, but when they find it impailed in someone's skull with your fingerprints on the bottle and your DNA splattered all over the place, it's going to be hard to find a defense in criminal court for the manslaughter charge.

Hopefully, the civil suit will find that the victim was only "worth" about $300,000 to society, like they did in the case of my friend Bruce Compton. Sometimes you get lucky like that, sometimes you're unlucky enough to take out a Doctor or a Major Airline Pielet and they nail you for TEN MILLION DOLLARS, the bastages.

A beer distribution company hit my buddy Bruce with a telephone pole and killed him as he walked down a sidewalk...the civil suit bore out that he was only "worth" 300,000 to society. The survivors appealed, but everybody knew Bruce wasn't worth a plug nickle. So maybe you'll get lucky and only hit some backwater town's version of Bruce...or maybe you'll be unlucky and hit a winner like a doctor.

But anywhoo...congratulations on getting your screen name fixed...that Cardenal thing was driving me nuts!!! :D
 
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In fact, my screename wasn't broke. Just somebody with no spelling skillz. And no numchuck skillz, and no bowhunting skillz...
 
Cardinal said:
In fact, my screename wasn't broke. Just somebody with no spelling skillz. And no numchuck skillz, and no bowhunting skillz...
Hahaha...thanks hoss!
 
enough egg on face to feed Denny's

I don't have a problem overall with the MCSO, but, like any department, it employs a few people who lack the ability to step back and make a reasonable judgement as to whether their actions serve the interest of justice.[/QUOTE]


That's about the smartest statement I've heard yet.
 
sqwkvfr said:
The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. They don't even know for sure what the "charge" is gonna be yet, but they seem confident that they'll be able to put the pilot in jail for something.
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Probably for wasting police time and resources.

There was an old TV commerical in the early 80's in N. Ireland showing the police pulling this guy over for doing 32 in a 30. I always loved the drivers last comment to the cop, 'Why don't leave me alone and go and catch some terrorists !!"
 
MCSO is a joke. Well, not the department, but the sheriff. One huge publicity stunt after another. I wouldn't classify this as such...but I did hear the actual call on the radio.

The Forest Service employee saw the bags come out and went ape S#!T and "secured" the area near Needle Rock. MCSO was dispatched along with the narcotics division (they thought it was a drug run, someone blew it out of proportion and said they were in black gym bags) then proceeded to give an aircraft description...I kid you not, the description was read as: "a white airplane with the wings on top, it looked like all the markings were taken off and it had a single propeller."

Way to describe 80% of the country's training fleet.

Anyway once the narcotic division was dispatched, the fire department had shown up but was staged nearby just incase breathing problems occured. MCSO then notified the FBI and Homeland Security. An hour or so into the call, someone managed to contact the gaggle of idiots to tell them it was flour from a paintballing game.
 
I've done flour bombing contests. They are great fun as long as everyone is safe and smart.

Unfortunately, they are going to stick this pilot. I sincerely hope he wasn't stupid enough to actually try hitting his friends with the flour.

It is, alas, against the law to dump anything on Federal property without permission (for good reason). Flour bombing, of course, is a lame reason, so they will try to burn him as if he were dumping his meth lab out there.

C
 
PC12Cowboy said:
Welcome back Mini...did you pass any writtens while you were banned?
LMFAO

Finished getting ready for the ATP. Gonna set that up for next week some time. It was great! LOL

-mini
 
mattpilot said:
hold on.... you don't even have your commercial and you want to take the ATP written???

Yeah...if nothing else it'll look good on a resume.

Gonna take the dispatcher written too since they're basically the same.

I'll be 23 in 8 months, so I'm pretty confident that within the next 24 I'll meet the requirements.

Next up: FE and maybe Parachute Rigger or whatever it's called.

Hey, it's not on my dime, so why not, right?

-mini

*edit*
Plus with the Gliem software, all I have to do is memorize it. Then I have all sorts of time to actually learn it. Memorizing is pretty easy for me, so it's all good. I'd recommend it to anyone! (the software that is)
 
is it even possible to take ATP without Commercial license?

Btw.. i have a feeling it will take you a good 2-3 years of instructing to get the hours required for an ATP practical checkride - don't forget, you need 500 hours X-C ;)
 
mattpilot said:
is it even possible to take ATP without Commercial license?

Btw.. i have a feeling it will take you a good 2-3 years of instructing to get the hours required for an ATP practical checkride - don't forget, you need 500 hours X-C ;)

Yep, 61.153(f). *edit* Did you mean the written or the practical?
The written, yes. The practical, no...you've got to have a commercial with instrument. There are other ways, but the way I (we) will have to go is Commercial / Instrument.

...and don't forget 100 night and 75 instrument (50 must be in an airplane) and 250 PIC of which 100 is Cross Country and 25 is night. Plus if you have over 20 night full stop landings, you can sub one landing for one hour of night time not to exceed 25 "hours".

You can take the writtens whenever you want. They're only valid for 24 months unless you're with a 135 or 121 operator (for the ATP written anyway) within that time frame.

2-3 Years? I don't think so. Between being a whore-instructor (attempting to max myself out) and possibly doing some safety pilot stuff for friends, flying the family here and there, etc...I'll be close on the 24 months probably, but if I can fly "full time" I won't need to re-take the test.

But...if I've got to re-take, so I'll have to pay for the test then, but at no expense to me right now, I'd be stupid not to take any and all tests I can study and prepare for...especially when I'm not flying anyway and I have nothing to do except study for orals where I'll get questions like "what is visual purple" and "how many Rods and Cones do you have in each eye?" plus the writtens...


But if you really want to know...my goal is to be like Cliff from Cheers some day...just full of useless information :D

-mini
 
2-3 Years? I don't think so. Between being a whore-instructor (attempting to max myself out) and possibly doing some safety pilot stuff for friends, flying the family here and there, etc...I'll be close on the 24 months probably, but if I can fly "full time" I won't need to re-take the test.


The hardest part is coming up with 500 X-C and 75 actual.

instructers here at sparten who've been here 3 years still don't have the requirements, despite having 3000 hours.
 
mattpilot said:
The hardest part is coming up with 500 X-C and 75 actual.

instructers here at sparten who've been here 3 years still don't have the requirements, despite having 3000 hours.

Who said anything about actual?

Actual or simulated instrument. Surely with an instrument rating you've got almost all of that covered?

I'd agree that the 500 xc for CFIs is tough. Probably going to be the biggest hurdle to get over, but...

Anything worth doing...

-mini
 
minitour said:
Who said anything about actual?

Actual or simulated instrument. Surely with an instrument rating you've got almost all of that covered?

I'd agree that the 500 xc for CFIs is tough. Probably going to be the biggest hurdle to get over, but...

Anything worth doing...

-mini

oops sorry.. actual was my mistake...

anyhow... you gonna force your students to go on X-C with you every other flight :D hehe
 
mattpilot said:
oops sorry.. actual was my mistake...

anyhow... you gonna force your students to go on X-C with you every other flight :D hehe

LOL no no...I wouldn't do that...not on a 50nm XC anyway...maybe to another airport for a TnG (counts as a XC flight for 135 mins that way), but it'd be a waste of their money to go 50nm each flight.

But I've already got 60XC...how tough can another 440 in the next 24 months be? I'll just take the wife down to Florida and back a few times (like that would go over real well :rolleyes:)

-mini
 
Flight teacher didn't violate Patriot Act


Thomas Ropp
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 5, 2005 12:00 AM

NORTHEAST VALLEY - Arizona's director of Homeland Security said his office is no longer investigating a Phoenix flight instructor who dropped bags of flour over the Tonto National Forest Sunday.

Frank Navarette said pilot Joshua Parriott, 29, and passenger James Klein, 42, of Chandler were guilty of poor judgment but did not violate the Patriot Act, a 2001 law that gives federal law enforcement broad powers to investigate crime and terrorism.

However, the men are not off the hook. On Thursday, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office brought three misdemeanor charges against them, and the Federal Aviation Administration could suspend or revoke Parriott's pilot's license and various certifications.



Parriott has already lost his job as a flight instructor at Westwind School of Aeronautics at Deer Valley Airport, according to the Sheriff's Office.

Parriott's record had previously been clean. Neither he nor Klein could be reached for comment.

Parriott and Klein dropped the bags of flour near the Verde River over Needle Rock Recreation Area as a prank while friends engaged in a game of paintball.

Nearby residents of Rio Verde notified the Sheriff's Office believing they had witnessed a terrorist dropping anthrax into a Valley water source. The incident occurred during the Iraqi elections, when the whole world was particularly alert to potential terrorist activity.

Jeff Myers, a spokesman for the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association said he was "appalled."
 
Suits are sometime out of this world.

While scooping water out of Rock Canyon in Lalaland,
we received a $1.35 water bill from the city....(we where operating for free)

Then the councilmen objected to us scooping at all(let Hollywood burn)
on the ground we would pollute drinking water if we crashed!

Our man, the Candyman answered that we could not pollute
more than the gazillion seagulls on the lake who came there
to clear their bilge after filling on the nearby garbage dumps...
 
Jeff Myers, a spokesman for the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association said he was "appalled."

Nice twist on that statement by the journalist. Appalled at what?
 

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