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88_MALIBU

88_MALIBU

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I noticed the thread on Pinnacle training and wondered what things were like over at Piedmont? Has anyone been through in the last year and is it really as bad as most outsiders say? What is the washout rate? And, is transition to the line easy or difficult for new hires? Any insight would be appreciated.Malibu
 
Heard from a few people it's really simple and easy. You've gotta REALLY screw up to get booted out... not study or have a bad, disrespectful attitude and you're gone. I don't know much else about them.
 
Does Piedmont pay during training?
 
steveair......thanks, for your info, but people are looking for real info not "i heard" info about PDT training. Go back to flying your PA-44/PA-28 and let the 121 operators anwer the questions in the regional sections....we'll let you answer the flight instructor questions!
 
PDT training is 2 weeks of ground school/indoc, 3 sessions of 2-on-1 in the simulator or airplane working on flows and checklists, then it is 10 sim sessions. Once the sims are done you fly about 30-40 cycles of IOE.
The entire training is AQP and they are trainined you to know "what happens when a light illuminates, and how to fix it" and not how to build the Dash 8.
If you study, you should do fine, but that is like and other airlines training program. We are not any harder or easier than any other 121 operator, but the AQP is faster.
You also get paid durring training, you get your gur. 72 hrs. a month plus 1/2 per-dium while in training. It's a nice pay check to get!
 
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Piedmont Inc. (you know that 212 carrier) doesn't require you to be able to spell and it doesn't teach you to proof read and spell check before sending a post!

:)
 
Pdt

Keep a good attitude or at least fake it. That is the ONLY reason PDT will let you go. If you happen to fly the sim soooooooo bad that they do fire you - threaten lawsuit, they will drop the whole issue. This was done many times.
The training does not go into detail because the instructors know nothing more than what comes rote from the Dash8 manual. They will read directly from slides that were created in 1997 by a now ex-captain.
Pay starts first day.
Paid-for hotel room, however you get to share a room with a complete stranger.
Prepare to be molested on line. The contract and FAR's are meerly recommendations to the scheduling dept. The FAA doesnt catch much and the union is to weak to enforce the contract.
Growth is supposed to be quick, however no jets are comming no matter what they tell you.
Get some quality east coast prop time, then go to a commuter that will decorate your resume a little better.
 
Has anyone heard the competitive times?

The reason I ask is that the times on Av. Interviews are all over the place.
 
There is none! Just make sure that the ink is dry on your multi/comm. certif.!!!!!!!
 
What type of headsets work good in the Dash 8 and what flight bag fits beside the seat. I have seen post on here about people wearing the Telex 750 or do you need actual protection from the noise.
 
geographer said:
What type of headsets work good in the Dash 8 and what flight bag fits beside the seat. I have seen post on here about people wearing the Telex 750 or do you need actual protection from the noise.
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You can use you standard David Clarks or get the Telex 750. The Dash is not that loud in the cockpit. You can carry a normal conversation at 900rpm.

Most guys ditch the headsets after TO (or upon setting 900) and put them on when thier in-range anyway (unless your with "Capt. Rulebook Nazi Space Shuttle Commander").

I had a Telex 750 from Dec 1999 to July 2004 in the dash. The advantage of the Telex is their light and dont "smother" you whole ear. Also after 8 hours of flying they don't feel like you wore a vice on your head all day. In the summer the Telex won't make you e ears sweaty also.

I have a standard David Clark 10-30 headset from 1989 and I wore that from my instrument rating thru 135 charter. A month or so into the line at ALG I switched to the telex. When I fly GA I usually use the old DC's but have been flying an old C-150 as of late so I'm back to old school with the hand mic and speaker.
If you get the telex get a small container like a tupper or something a staples so they wont get smashed in you flight bag.

The dash has a very wide cockpit and large area on your right for just about ant size flight bag. A good and cheap on is the black nylon/canvas ones you can get at staples for 40-60 dollars. After you ugrade you can get the scott one which lasts forever.

Either way the DC or Telex headsets both work fine in the dash just that the Telex is more comfy and as for a flight bag if it doesn't fit in a dash, it ain't gonna fit in and other cockpit (as far as being at you side) that I've seen.

Good luck
 
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Mav204 said:
steveair......thanks, for your info, but people are looking for real info not "i heard" info about PDT training. Go back to flying your PA-44/PA-28 and let the 121 operators anwer the questions in the regional sections....we'll let you answer the flight instructor questions!
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I like your 121 professionalism.
 
It is a good Idea to go to the store and buy a rectangular tuberware container to put your telex headset in while it's in your flight case. It'll keep 'em from getting crushed by your oversized POH and FOM. They give you a couple of options of flight cases (which you have to pay for) during training. Just get the cheap one, they last a while anyway.
 
I'll put my vote in for telex's as well, although i wear some decent earplugs during takeoff (1200rpm) once it comes back to 1050 i take them out.

but then i hear that pdt has some weird 1200 climb out thing so i guess when i transition/upgrade there i'll prolly end up keeping the plugs in longer
(yeaaah, right i will, their comin back to 1050 for climbs)
 
Mav204 said:
steveair......thanks, for your info, but people are looking for real info not "i heard" info about PDT training. Go back to flying your PA-44/PA-28 and let the 121 operators anwer the questions in the regional sections....we'll let you answer the flight instructor questions!
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Hey thats cool!! Its sweet that you like to put down guys who are just offering what they know. oh yeah you were probably born a 121 pilot. gimme a break. I will go back to my PA-44 also so you can get back to bashing people. mister big man. wow i cant wait to be just like you.
 
Competitive Times

Was wondering what the people coming on board have these days....

Got one answer but I think the source is some what week.

thanks
 
You calling me weak son? :)

Okay really! People coming to PDT right now are from anywhere between 500hrs to about 1000hrs. The mins used to be 1500-500multi, however since we can't find anyone with exprience willing to come fly props we are having to take low time people!
So again, read careful my son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF THE INK IS DRY ON YOUR COMM/MULTI CERTIF. THEN SEND PIEDMONT A RESUME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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but then i hear that pdt has some weird 1200 climb out thing so i guess when i transition/upgrade there i'll prolly end up keeping the plugs in longer
(yeaaah, right i will, their comin back to 1050 for climbs)
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Not sure where that came from. The props are set to 1050 at 1500' AGL, with the option (but not recommendation) of 900.
 
Go for the 750, or use the one's that are in the airplane. Your head won't feel like its been in a vice all day, and the captain you're flying with will appreciate not having to yell at you. Not many guys use the hotmic here.
 
So all of the aircraft have crew headsets in them? If so are they the FAA type headsets without a mike or are they similiar to the Telex?
 
well, i'll put that to the test. i sent them a resume with my whopping 555/176

WSurf said:
You calling me weak son? :)

Okay really! People coming to PDT right now are from anywhere between 500hrs to about 1000hrs. The mins used to be 1500-500multi, however since we can't find anyone with exprience willing to come fly props we are having to take low time people!
So again, read careful my son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF THE INK IS DRY ON YOUR COMM/MULTI CERTIF. THEN SEND PIEDMONT A RESUME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aeronca said:
Does anyone know where their bases are?

Thanks.
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CLT Charlotte, NC
EWN New Bern, NC
CHO Charlottesville, VA
PHF/ORF Newport News/Norfolk, VA
ROA Roanoke, VA
SBY Salsibury, MD
 
Headsets in the airplanes are Planetronics. Not the best, but adequate.
 
How long before you could bid Charlotte as a new-hire? How many trips (commutes) per month in a typical schedule?
 
Everyone that was going to apply to PDT might want to hold on for a while. The Dec. 21st interviews scheduled were all canceled as of today. Apparently, the training dept. is about to start the Alleghaney transition and will be busy for that for a while. No future date was given for interviews. My luck seems to continue......
 
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Apparently, the training dept. is about to start the Alleghaney transition and will be busy for that for a while.
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That's correct. Apparently Airways reduced the amount of flying PDT was supposed to do next year, thanks to the financing for more RJs. Consequently, the original hiring projections have been reduced, and training resources allocated to ALG pilots, who will start transition training in January.

Also, it may be moot right now, but the junior FOs in CLT have only a few months of seniority.
 

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