Piedmont Training

[88_MALIBU]

I noticed the thread on Pinnacle training and wondered what things were like over at Piedmont? Has anyone been through in the last year and is it really as bad as most outsiders say? What is the washout rate? And, is transition to the line easy or difficult for new hires? Any insight would be appreciated.Malibu

 

[Steveair]

Heard from a few people it's really simple and easy. You've gotta REALLY screw up to get booted out... not study or have a bad, disrespectful attitude and you're gone. I don't know much else about them.

 

[88_MALIBU]

Steve

Wow, thanks. I had been hearing the opposite over at Avit interview.com

 

[flyer172r]

Does Piedmont pay during training?

 

[WSurf]

yea, nice check too.

 

[Mav204]

steveair......thanks, for your info, but people are looking for real info not "i heard" info about PDT training. Go back to flying your PA-44/PA-28 and let the 121 operators anwer the questions in the regional sections....we'll let you answer the flight instructor questions!

 

[Mav204]

PDT training is 2 weeks of ground school/indoc, 3 sessions of 2-on-1 in the simulator or airplane working on flows and checklists, then it is 10 sim sessions. Once the sims are done you fly about 30-40 cycles of IOE.
The entire training is AQP and they are trainined you to know "what happens when a light illuminates, and how to fix it" and not how to build the Dash 8.
If you study, you should do fine, but that is like and other airlines training program. We are not any harder or easier than any other 121 operator, but the AQP is faster.
You also get paid durring training, you get your gur. 72 hrs. a month plus 1/2 per-dium while in training. It's a nice pay check to get!

 

[WSurf]

Piedmont Inc. (you know that 212 carrier) doesn't require you to be able to spell and it doesn't teach you to proof read and spell check before sending a post!

 

[TZFO]

Pdt

Keep a good attitude or at least fake it. That is the ONLY reason PDT will let you go. If you happen to fly the sim soooooooo bad that they do fire you - threaten lawsuit, they will drop the whole issue. This was done many times.
The training does not go into detail because the instructors know nothing more than what comes rote from the Dash8 manual. They will read directly from slides that were created in 1997 by a now ex-captain.
Pay starts first day.
Paid-for hotel room, however you get to share a room with a complete stranger.
Prepare to be molested on line. The contract and FAR's are meerly recommendations to the scheduling dept. The FAA doesnt catch much and the union is to weak to enforce the contract.
Growth is supposed to be quick, however no jets are comming no matter what they tell you.
Get some quality east coast prop time, then go to a commuter that will decorate your resume a little better.

 

[Hobit]

Has anyone heard the competitive times?

The reason I ask is that the times on Av. Interviews are all over the place.

 

[WSurf]

There is none! Just make sure that the ink is dry on your multi/comm. certif.!!!!!!!

 

[geographer]

What type of headsets work good in the Dash 8 and what flight bag fits beside the seat. I have seen post on here about people wearing the Telex 750 or do you need actual protection from the noise.

 

[LearLove]

What type of headsets work good in the Dash 8 and what flight bag fits beside the seat. I have seen post on here about people wearing the Telex 750 or do you need actual protection from the noise.

You can use you standard David Clarks or get the Telex 750. The Dash is not that loud in the cockpit. You can carry a normal conversation at 900rpm.

Most guys ditch the headsets after TO (or upon setting 900) and put them on when thier in-range anyway (unless your with "Capt. Rulebook Nazi Space Shuttle Commander").

I had a Telex 750 from Dec 1999 to July 2004 in the dash. The advantage of the Telex is their light and dont "smother" you whole ear. Also after 8 hours of flying they don't feel like you wore a vice on your head all day. In the summer the Telex won't make you e ears sweaty also.

I have a standard David Clark 10-30 headset from 1989 and I wore that from my instrument rating thru 135 charter. A month or so into the line at ALG I switched to the telex. When I fly GA I usually use the old DC's but have been flying an old C-150 as of late so I'm back to old school with the hand mic and speaker.
If you get the telex get a small container like a tupper or something a staples so they wont get smashed in you flight bag.

The dash has a very wide cockpit and large area on your right for just about ant size flight bag. A good and cheap on is the black nylon/canvas ones you can get at staples for 40-60 dollars. After you ugrade you can get the scott one which lasts forever.

Either way the DC or Telex headsets both work fine in the dash just that the Telex is more comfy and as for a flight bag if it doesn't fit in a dash, it ain't gonna fit in and other cockpit (as far as being at you side) that I've seen.

Good luck

 

[SRJ]

steveair......thanks, for your info, but people are looking for real info not "i heard" info about PDT training. Go back to flying your PA-44/PA-28 and let the 121 operators anwer the questions in the regional sections....we'll let you answer the flight instructor questions!

I like your 121 professionalism.

 

[blzr]

It is a good Idea to go to the store and buy a rectangular tuberware container to put your telex headset in while it's in your flight case. It'll keep 'em from getting crushed by your oversized POH and FOM. They give you a couple of options of flight cases (which you have to pay for) during training. Just get the cheap one, they last a while anyway.