PDT class news????

[PropPiedmont]

"We are planning to operate at the 53 level at least until April, when we may drop down to 52."

53 operating aircraft, we will have 1 operational spare, 2 aircraft offline getting major maintenance checks, and at some point 1 aircraft offline being painted in the new livery.

53+ 1 spare + 2 in heavy = 56. At some point 1 will be in paint (hence 1 spare or 2 in mx).

Bottom line is 53 aircraft requiring flight crews until April then 52. Those are the important numbers. Who gives a crap if we have 127 spare aircraft. It's all about how many aircraft require crews, right.

 

[lear24]

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[PA31Ho]

has anybody seen these new 100's we are supposed to get? where are they coming from?

 

[mnalpha]

the tundra up north

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

Is Colgan picking up more Us Air flying???

 

[mnalpha]

airW got 3% of PDT's flying, so I would bet if anyone gets more it will be them

 

[JohnnyP]

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Yea we lost something to the tune of 600 hrs of flying, if i'm remembering the figure correctly that I heard. Really stinks to lose the -200's. But I guess the plan of replacing the 200's with 100's is better than replacing them with nothing at all. One less set of numbers to carry around in the 'ol head I suppose. And dare I type this, some possible upgrades in the not too distant future? Wouldnt count it out totally.

Anyone else see that QOL flyer floating around? 5:00 for a day room now? Jeeze. Meal vouchers $10 up from $5? And a possible scenario to actually bid on individual buildups and reserve lines instead of being stuck with whatever Loretta feels like sticking you with? Anyone have any more semi-concrete info on these and other things?

 

[JohnnyP]

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Ok I dont know why that smile face thing is in my post, didnt put it there, cant get it to go away.

 

[mnalpha]

yea it could be a hell of a lot worse. we could be flying 50 seat jets. too bad those things are as usefull/profitable as a butthole on my elbow (saw kill bill 2 tonight). lots of peeps left for the 50seat throwaways, but they are all doomed. this prop is a prop, fun to fly (sometimes) and you dont have to worry about a crap contract being thrown in your face. so yea could be a hell of a lot worse. this is a good place to weather regional the sh|tstorm

 

[MEL'ed]

Saw the powerpoint from the negotiations. Too much to remember everything. Lots of stuff to helpout reserves. Callouts will be 2 hrs in lga, 1.5 hrs in stations with busing (ie clt/mdt), and 1 hr 15 mins for everyone else. 20 mins instead of 30 to change pilots (ie deadheader and you want to be released), and less than 20 they can't automatically deny if it is possible to change them. New rules about meeting the crew in another station if the first leg is a deadhead so you don't have to fly into base just to deadhead to another station. Unlimited trades for 48 hr period for line holders instead of just 6 add/drops. The old ALG deal where if you forgot to bid you get the highest line your seniority can hold. who cares about day rooms, how many have you ever actually gotten? Besides I would rather get a $10 meal than spend the day in a hotel room with a another guy. All the changes show at least progression in the contract that we are moving forward and not backward. That is all I can think of for now but there is way more as well.

 

[PHXFLYR]

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[PA31Ho]

so obviously it's easier to give up aircraft then buy them. ie - getting rid of the 200s and getting 100's... are we going to lose the 200s and slowly get 100s? We have what 9 or 12 200s? You don't suppose they'll let some pilots go will you?

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

pdt furloughing? oh oh

 

[mnalpha]

pdt furloughing? oh oh

NO, we are short, and will be running classes in the near future

 

[PropPiedmont]

so obviously it's easier to give up aircraft then buy them. ie - getting rid of the 200s and getting 100's... are we going to lose the 200s and slowly get 100s? We have what 9 or 12 200s? You don't suppose they'll let some pilots go will you?

We have 8 -200s left right now. All the 200s will not be replaced by 100s. Some 100 leases will be extended to cover that flying and maybe 2 or 3 old PDT/ALG -100s that have been parked for 2 years will come back online.

Don't let them fool you guys. Our fleet is still shrinking, do the math. 57 to 55 to 53 to 52 aircraft flying revenue. That is a shrinking fleet.

In mid 2001 PDT had 82 Dash 8s on certificate and ALG was around 50. 130 plus dash 8s and now it will soon be down 52. There has not been any growth at PDT/ALG in over 4 years now, what makes any of you think that this trend is changing?

 

[LearLove]

Actually there hasn't been any growth on the ALG side since prior to Suburban/Penn merger in what was it 1993 or something. After that merger there was supposed to be a combined fleet of 55 aircraft. Hoever all the Shorts and 1900's went away (1900's to Mesa/Florida Gulf) and for many years they were left with 37 (give or take a few) Dash 8's.

When I slid to MDA in 7/2004 ALG was supposed to take 18 to 22 aircraft to PDT.

 

[WSurf]

They are getting rid of the 200's, so when the 400's come on line we won't have to learn numbers for 4 types of Dash's!!! Lol-------->Theres a rumor to start!!!

 

[PropPiedmont]

They are getting rid of the 200's, so when the 400's come on line we won't have to learn numbers for 4 types of Dash's!!! Lol-------->Theres a rumor to start!!!

200 leases are too expensive, but the 400 leases won't be, right.

Island Air put in an order for 8 400s, yet a nother missed opportunity by Piedmont. By the time PDT puts an order in, after Hell has frozen over, there should be at least 100 back orders and a 4 year wait.

 

[WSurf]

It was a joke! Anyway, your right! The only way we get 400's is if some 3rd world nations flies the crap out of them!
I heard when we got the 300's that Bombard. Engineers lost there lunch when they saw the condition that some of them were in!!

 

[PropPiedmont]

Billy,

I was joking too. We've both been here long enough to understand that sarcasm is the only way to cope.