Pay up or get fired

[Bringupthebird]

What other option do they have? You can't have a union with any kind of effectiveness without reliable cash flow.
Scott

They have so much money now, they don't know what to do with it. They buy cars for themselves, grant stipends for themselves, hand out 3500 $10 Gift Cards for Turkeys, buy lobbyists and strategic communications specialists and finally (drum roll please) $2 Million + for an attorney whose sole source of income depends on a divided pilot group!

Yes, it is a hard sell for people to give up their money and their dignity to support such a corrupt organization. And it will never change, regardless of how many people retire.

USAPA is the best motivation to find another job there is.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Ok, help me out here folks, I'm a little fuzzy...why would management care if a pilot was delinquent in their dues to the union?

That's the way agency shops operate. You don't have to be a member of the Union, but if you work under their contract you have to pay the dues.

 

[Tail Gunner Joe]

Now, I am a little fuzzy.
Contract? Is there a contract?

 

[NEDude]

So what if the number of non-paying pilots is substantial. As in large enough that terminating the pilots would seriously damage the operations?

No idea what the number is, but it seems to me if enough pilots refused to pay dues, there would be no way the company could terminate them.

Unless of course it became random terminations...

 

[Ocity]

That's the way agency shops operate. You don't have to be a member of the Union, but if you work under their contract you have to pay the dues.

USAPA has delivered nothing but legal bills, heartburn, and failure to the pilots of US Airways. The contracts were derived from ALPA and no labor group is further away from a new contract than the East Coast USAPA run idiots.

It's better described as extortion since USAPA couldn't deliver a pizza if they actually wanted to.

 

[whymeworry?]

Where does USAPA get it's legal advice from? What about past-precedence? Recall the DAL pilots who sued DALPA for the right NOT to pay union dues (and this despite DALPA getting them a stellar contract in 2001 just prior to 9/11.).

 

[Hugh Johnson]

How come they don't just take the monthly dues out of your paycheck? That's what they did when I was at AE. Granted, that was AMR.

 

[get2flyin]

They will if you sign up for it. It's called Dues Checkoff. When USAPA took over, they tried to get the company to apply previous ALPA dues checkoffs to USAPA dues collection. Company was smart enough to know better. New union, new form to sign.

 

[Hamburger]

Arizona is a right to work state. They can't compel Westies to join. Tell 'em to pound sand.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Arizona is a right to work state. They can't compel Westies to join. Tell 'em to pound sand.

RLA trumps RTW.

 

[St. Nic]

Listen, all you delinquent pilots better start paying what you SHOULD have been paying almost two years ago before you get fired. USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys. Figure it out, this isn't rocket science.

 

[Ocity]

Listen, all you delinquent pilots better start paying what you SHOULD have been paying almost two years ago before you get fired. USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys. Figure it out, this isn't rocket science.

How many pilots has USAPA been able to fire for not paying so far?

ZERO

Losers...

 

[Whine Lover]

" What a FINE union doing such OUTSTANDING work for it's membership...and ALPA was the enemy. (?)"

All ALPA / Teamster's / Contracts allow the same thing.

I'm Sorry, But...Have you ever actually read your Union Contract?

THIS IS STANDARD LANGUAGE. ( Company firing of Non-Dues paying Union Members. )

Unfortunately.


YKMKR

P.S. - Don't get me wrong....USAPA / US-Whatever- Doosh- Bag -Airways/....Can "Sark MY DonK."

What a Pile-Of-A-Holes.

 

[Dizel8]

USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys.

If "you guys" refers to the Cactus boys, I think they would say USAPA is indeed for the "USAir pilots".

 

[FNG320]

Getting the former AWA pilots to pay back back dues for services not rendered is bullsh1t! THat would be money paid for debts the USAPA incurred fighting those same pilots. Now, legally the USAPA is the recognzied rep for USAir pilots (all of them), the former AWA pilots should start paying dues fromnow on, but no back dues.

I would say the AWA guys need to go back to the judge on the last ruling and get the dues things included in this decision. He needs to rule on what the West pilot owe in the way of dues (if any thing) for "past services" , as well as when they should start paying dues to USAPA.

Just my opinion......

FNG