Pay up or get fired

[LearLove]

guess they need someone to pay since in about 2 months 200 of us won't be dues paying members anymore.

 

[BoilerUP]

The company does has a contractual obligation to fire pilots by the request of USAPA for non-payment. USAPA makes the request the company has to comply.

Is that contractual obligation a carry-over from their CBAs under ALPA?

 

[C Festerpuss]

Them USapians sent one of dem letters and I said no way. I ain't payen no Yankee Union my hard earned cash. That guy "Just call me Dave" was a gonna pay the guys on disability with Davey Dollars.

So I figure I can send in some of that ole Confederate money that grandma had stuffed in the mattress.

 

[Dan Roman]

What other option do they have? You can't have a union with any kind of effectiveness without reliable cash flow. The problme will only get worse.

Scott

Actually, you can't have a union that's sole purpose is to divide and conquer it's members. Whatever they do, they will never have the most important ingredient to an effective union. Which is a strong majority working together.
USAPA is not a "Union" by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Cowboy75]

Is that contractual obligation a carry-over from their CBAs under ALPA?

You could be terminated for non-payment of dues to ALPA. USAPA is being more aggressive in collections because of the large numbers of pilots simply refusing to pay.

 

[Bringupthebird]

What other option do they have? You can't have a union with any kind of effectiveness without reliable cash flow.
Scott

They have so much money now, they don't know what to do with it. They buy cars for themselves, grant stipends for themselves, hand out 3500 $10 Gift Cards for Turkeys, buy lobbyists and strategic communications specialists and finally (drum roll please) $2 Million + for an attorney whose sole source of income depends on a divided pilot group!

Yes, it is a hard sell for people to give up their money and their dignity to support such a corrupt organization. And it will never change, regardless of how many people retire.

USAPA is the best motivation to find another job there is.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Ok, help me out here folks, I'm a little fuzzy...why would management care if a pilot was delinquent in their dues to the union?

That's the way agency shops operate. You don't have to be a member of the Union, but if you work under their contract you have to pay the dues.

 

[Tail Gunner Joe]

Now, I am a little fuzzy.
Contract? Is there a contract?

 

[NEDude]

So what if the number of non-paying pilots is substantial. As in large enough that terminating the pilots would seriously damage the operations?

No idea what the number is, but it seems to me if enough pilots refused to pay dues, there would be no way the company could terminate them.

Unless of course it became random terminations...

 

[Ocity]

That's the way agency shops operate. You don't have to be a member of the Union, but if you work under their contract you have to pay the dues.

USAPA has delivered nothing but legal bills, heartburn, and failure to the pilots of US Airways. The contracts were derived from ALPA and no labor group is further away from a new contract than the East Coast USAPA run idiots.

It's better described as extortion since USAPA couldn't deliver a pizza if they actually wanted to.