Pay up or get fired

[whymeworry?]

Where does USAPA get it's legal advice from? What about past-precedence? Recall the DAL pilots who sued DALPA for the right NOT to pay union dues (and this despite DALPA getting them a stellar contract in 2001 just prior to 9/11.).

 

[Hugh Johnson]

How come they don't just take the monthly dues out of your paycheck? That's what they did when I was at AE. Granted, that was AMR.

 

[get2flyin]

They will if you sign up for it. It's called Dues Checkoff. When USAPA took over, they tried to get the company to apply previous ALPA dues checkoffs to USAPA dues collection. Company was smart enough to know better. New union, new form to sign.

 

[Hamburger]

Arizona is a right to work state. They can't compel Westies to join. Tell 'em to pound sand.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Arizona is a right to work state. They can't compel Westies to join. Tell 'em to pound sand.

RLA trumps RTW.

 

[St. Nic]

Listen, all you delinquent pilots better start paying what you SHOULD have been paying almost two years ago before you get fired. USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys. Figure it out, this isn't rocket science.

 

[Ocity]

Listen, all you delinquent pilots better start paying what you SHOULD have been paying almost two years ago before you get fired. USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys. Figure it out, this isn't rocket science.

How many pilots has USAPA been able to fire for not paying so far?

ZERO

Losers...

 

[Whine Lover]

" What a FINE union doing such OUTSTANDING work for it's membership...and ALPA was the enemy. (?)"

All ALPA / Teamster's / Contracts allow the same thing.

I'm Sorry, But...Have you ever actually read your Union Contract?

THIS IS STANDARD LANGUAGE. ( Company firing of Non-Dues paying Union Members. )

Unfortunately.


YKMKR

P.S. - Don't get me wrong....USAPA / US-Whatever- Doosh- Bag -Airways/....Can "Sark MY DonK."

What a Pile-Of-A-Holes.

 

[Dizel8]

USAPA is a union for USAir pilots and that includes you guys.

If "you guys" refers to the Cactus boys, I think they would say USAPA is indeed for the "USAir pilots".

 

[FNG320]

Getting the former AWA pilots to pay back back dues for services not rendered is bullsh1t! THat would be money paid for debts the USAPA incurred fighting those same pilots. Now, legally the USAPA is the recognzied rep for USAir pilots (all of them), the former AWA pilots should start paying dues fromnow on, but no back dues.

I would say the AWA guys need to go back to the judge on the last ruling and get the dues things included in this decision. He needs to rule on what the West pilot owe in the way of dues (if any thing) for "past services" , as well as when they should start paying dues to USAPA.

Just my opinion......

FNG

 

[Bringupthebird]

Every USAirways pilot who thinks they are worth more than USAPA will ever provide (including the $10 turkey) must commit to doing all they can to remove Cleary and USAPA from power. Going with NO union would be a huge improvement over USAPA and might be the only thing that allows the pilot groups to move forward.

Once the seniority integration issue is laid to rest then ALL the US pilots can craft a constitution for a union that doesn't disenfranchise the minority.

Ironic that in order to do what was Prater's responsibility to begin with, the pilots might have to forego all union protection for a while.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

How many pilots has USAPA been able to fire for not paying so far?

ZERO

thats true....only the company can hire...and fire. the Union can't do it....but the union can pressure the company to comply with the CBA.

And that is what they are doing.

I do remember ALPA having the "legacy" carrier I worked for, send out letters to pilots who would not pay the Eastern strike assessment.

None of the pilots got terminated. Because after they got the letters from the company...they decided to pay up.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Arizona is a right to work state. They can't compel Westies to join. Tell 'em to pound sand.

You're right they can't compel them to join. They can, however, require them to pay the dues.

RLA trumps RTW.

Exactly.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I had a buddy that just paid his entire outstanding balance in pennies. Not rolled up or anyting, just in a big box. to make it better, he took a hammer and bent a bunch of them so they would not go through a coin counter/coinstar machine.

 

[B-atch]

I had a buddy that just paid his entire outstanding balance in pennies. Not rolled up or anyting, just in a big box. to make it better, he took a hammer and bent a bunch of them so they would not go through a coin counter/coinstar machine.

Ahhh...Tell your BUDDY!! that destroying/defacing
US currency is a federal offence!! D-A$$!!

"..Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service...."

 

[Cowboy75]

Ahhh...Tell your BUDDY!! that destroying/defacing
US currency is a federal offence!! D-A$$!!

He should have bought a penny pressing machine. Much less work and according to a penny pressing website, legal:

Is it legal?
The most commonly asked question, and most misunderstood. The basic answer is Yes. We have two basic versions of our machines: the US model that allow the user to put in their own penny, for markets where the law allows; and the International model equipped with a coin hopper inside of it that delivers its own coin to the press when the user puts in their money. The law varies from country to country, but we have machines for both circumstances.

 

[AutoBus]

You could be terminated for non-payment of dues to ALPA. USAPA is being more aggressive in collections because of the large numbers of pilots simply refusing to pay.

USAPA sucks,

 

[St. Nic]

Here is the simple truth: USAPA is the legal CBA, they have been the CBA since April 2008 and all pilots employed at USAirways must pay dues. I understand some of you all out west have trouble abiding by federal laws (RICO) but really, isn't it time to grow up?

 

[AutoBus]

Here is the simple truth: USAPA is the legal CBA, they have been the CBA since April 2008 and all pilots employed at USAirways must pay dues. I understand some of you all out west have trouble abiding by federal laws (RICO) but really, isn't it time to grow up?

Well let's see, what part of DFR don't you understand?

As far as USAPA being the legal CBA, that will change, very, very shortly.

 

[Cowboy75]

USAPA sucks,

With angry new members joining every day, maybe USAPA will suck less in the future.