Pax gets thrown off plane

[waverider]

Ok, here we go again.....Does anyone agree/disagree with the crews handling of this incident?

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/plane-boots-talking-toddler-and-mother/20070712092209990001

 

[WSurf]

Ok, here we go again.....Does anyone agree/disagree with the crews handling of this incident?

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/plane-boots-talking-toddler-and-mother/20070712092209990001

Its not that we don't agree/disagree..... Its just that we don't really care anymore!

Thread Closed!!

 

[waverider]

But wsurf, I thought you actually still cared about the peops' in the back...

btw, this particular incident apparently just happened last month.

 

[WWEfan]

What? No video of the actual incident? Those other pax were slacking.

 

[slackass]

Owners have to keep their barking dogs quiet. Parents should be responsible for their kids. Oh, I forget. No one is responsible for anything anymore. It's all about the children.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Owners have to keep their barking dogs quiet. Parents should be responsible for their kids. Oh, I forget. No one is responsible for anything anymore. It's all about the children.

I guessing you don't have kids....

Seems everyone tolerates their own kids...just not others...

There is a line beween babys/kids being human and bad parenting.....

Now....where is that line...

 

[Cavpilot]

I guessing you don't have kids....

Seems everyone tolerates their own kids...just not others...

There is a line beween babys/kids being human and bad parenting.....

Now....where is that line...

I do have kids. Two of them. They both probably have more time in the back of the plane than most PSA/TSA FOs have in the front. From infancy, through toddlerhood to the teen/ preteens they are now I have never had a problem with them on an airplane. Is this because I am such a super parent my kids are perfect? Not even close. The problem is that there are so many lousy parents out there that get led around by their noses by there kids, it makes the rest of us normal parents look like geniuses.
Yes, babies cry and toddlers can sometimes be a handful, but that is no excuse for being a sucky parent. This lady is no different than litany of scumbags that we keep reading about every month or so. I don't buy a word of her story. You don't get kicked off an airplane because your kid was talking. God bless that flight attendant, she made the tough call.

 

[TNHillbilly]

I got to start flying boxes. I don't believe a word she says.

 

[willbob]

Mom and the little darling were just on Good Morning American the kid was so rotten that they had to remove him from the set. Mom is obviously enjoying her 15 minutes of "fame".

The media loves nothing more than bashing airlines except maybe the military and religion.

good job to the FA

 

[Prop2Jet]

Put the kid in R1 or R2.... I hate kids on planes they are loud and annoy me. Use a condom!

 

[WSurf]

Mom and the little darling were just on Good Morning American the kid was so rotten that they had to remove him from the set. Mom is obviously enjoying her 15 minutes of "fame".

The media loves nothing more than bashing airlines except maybe the military and religion.

good job to the FA

Yea I just watched it too willbob!!! I was laughing my a$$ off! That boy controls his mom, and she didn't do anything to help her case by going on the show!

I am sure there is more to this story then just "bye bye Plane"

 

[bluefishbeagle]

Maybe we should ban all kids and while we are at it ban anyone who ever was a kid.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Whenever a passenger is removed from a flight, the passengers ALWAYS claim they did nothing and it was the "rude crew" who caused the problem.

Since none of us were there, we have no right to Monday morning quarterback the decision.

I support the crew.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Oh, I forget. No one is responsible for anything anymore.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[capt. megadeth]

I guessing you don't have kids....

Seems everyone tolerates their own kids...just not others...

There is a line beween babys/kids being human and bad parenting.....

Now....where is that line...

Hey Rez.....if, by some small itty bitty chance, one of my eggs does survive the black hole.......since you have so much patience and love for these little gifts of life......when I am about ready to shoot myself in the head from the screaming and tantrums....can I bring him or her over to your house for a break?

Will ya help a sista out?

 

[capt. megadeth]

Maybe we should ban all kids and while we are at it ban anyone who ever was a kid.

Ahhhhhhh.....like music to my ears! Teee heee

 

[Superpilot92]

Ahhhhhhh.....like music to my ears! Teee heee

Watch this video of that mother and little angle. I bet if he acted anything like this on the plane they deserved to get kicked off.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3374063

The kid looks like a monster in this video. There are always 2 sides of a story.

 

[John Pennekamp]

All she proved today is that her kid is a nasty brat after all.

And it appears from her "testimony" that the kid was interrupting her safety brief to the point that the other pax couldn't hear her. Sounds like interfering in a crewmember's duties to me. The FA was justified except that she should have withheld the crack about "baby benedryl".

 

[gkrangers]

Do you have a link to that bit about the disrupting the crew member brief?

 

[John Pennekamp]

Do you have a link to that bit about the disrupting the crew member brief?

The mother said it on GMA. She said "The FA was doing her safety briefing and...".

 

[gkrangers]

The only mention of anything like that was whats her name saying the flight attendant was doing her speech...but they never said safety brief specifically. The mother didn't say it tho.

 

[flyboy06]

I'm glad we can talk about it here, the threads that bring this up at expressjetpilots the mods keeps deleting them, censorship at its best I guess

 

[John Pennekamp]

The only mention of anything like that was whats her name saying the flight attendant was doing her speech...but they never said safety brief specifically. The mother didn't say it tho.

You're right. But I think it' safe to assume "her speech" = the Safety Brief in layman's terms.

 

[gkrangers]

I agree.

The FA could use that as a loophole to get rid of a pax, right?

 

[regionalcap]

Aww come on. You don't kick a 2 year old off a plane because it is crying during the safety briefing. Geez. We have crying babies and 2 year olds having tantrums all the time. Have you ever traveled with a 2 year old?

 

[Superpilot92]

Aww come on. You don't kick a 2 year old off a plane because it is crying during the safety briefing. Geez. We have crying babies and 2 year olds having tantrums all the time. Have you ever traveled with a 2 year old?

Did you watch the video? If he did anything even resembling what he did on the Show than wouldn't you say the "mother" and the angel of a son trump the other 48 people on the planes, safety and comfort?

 

[Farmer]

Did you watch the video? If he did anything even resembling what he did on the Show than wouldn't you say the "mother" and the angel of a son trump the other 48 people on the planes, safety and comfort?

You must not have kids. Most 18 month old kids act just like the one on the video when you want them to sit quietly in one place. One of my kids was perfect on planes and my other acted worse than the kid was at the news show, but she would throw a fit for 10-15 minutes and be fine, or just fall asleep after that. There is not much you can do about it and its not bad parenting, kid throw fits.

If the flight attendant is so worried about her safety brief then she should just go back and ask all of the passengers if they were able to hear her. If they couldn't then she could simply brief them again at their seats.

We don't know the whole story, but even a kid that is kicking and screaming should not be kicked off of a flight. My guess is that the flight attendant had a long day and was a little edgy. The mother probably said more than she would like to admit and really ticked the flight attendant off. I know that I would have told the flight attendant where to go if she told me my kid needed medication and the cops would probably have to drag me off the plane.

Comfort???? If you want comfort don't take public transportation (or buy some earplugs).

 

[trachyte11]

Did the pax that sat next to her interview on her part? I'd like to see what he had to say. I just sat next to a mom in first class for a 4hr flight who decided to bring her 16mo old son as a lap-child. About 10min in to the flight I sure wish the FA were to take her off the plane. Little c*$phead spilled his drink on me and was screaming away the entire flight.

But the XJ FA sure did seem to have a control problem. Sounds like a few CA's I've flown with.

 

[Superpilot92]

You must not have kids. Most 18 month old kids act just like the one on the video when you want them to sit quietly in one place. One of my kids was perfect on planes and my other acted worse than the kid was at the news show, but she would throw a fit for 10-15 minutes and be fine, or just fall asleep after that. There is not much you can do about it and its not bad parenting, kid throw fits.

If the flight attendant is so worried about her safety brief then she should just go back and ask all of the passengers if they were able to hear her. If they couldn't then she could simply brief them again at their seats.

We don't know the whole story, but even a kid that is kicking and screaming should not be kicked off of a flight. My guess is that the flight attendant had a long day and was a little edgy. The mother probably said more than she would like to admit and really ticked the flight attendant off. I know that I would have told the flight attendant where to go if she told me my kid needed medication and the cops would probably have to drag me off the plane.

Comfort???? If you want comfort don't take public transportation (or buy some earplugs).

I do have a 2 year old son who i would never allow to act that way. I dont know both sides of the story but if the flight attendant felt that they were disrupting her from doing her job then maybe it was justified. I dont know. I do know that this one mother and child dont trump 48 other potential pax. JMHO

 

[theskyking]

Since when has anyone actually listened to the FA during her safety demo anyway? Don't think the kid throwing a fit actually made any difference with that.