WD, for the most part, you communicate in divisive, condescending tones which alienate people. It's a style we are all familiar with, as many East ALPA reps communicate this way, too. If "for the life of you" you cannot see the windfall that puts a 2004 newhire ahead of a continuously employed 1987 hire, then you are beyond all hope, and decidedly anti-labor.
No it alienates YOU and usapa clowns which I'm sorry are not my concern!! No I don't see the windfall you speak of sorry!! Now can you tell me, tell us all where Mr. continously employed 1987 hire was on the east list on the day the merger was announced? Can you tell us how many ACTIVE PILOTS he had below him on said list?? What you seek in DOH is a staple job and the biggest windfall on the planet. I like the majority of the west pilots are within a couple of numbers after the award that we were two days prior to the merger! I'm not beyond hope as I am the face of labor my man I am not willing to allow YOUR east past to effect OUR west futures!
Here's another example of how you communicate. I never said I held PHL reps in high regard. I, in fact, see significant problems in the way they represented the group, the way they communicate, and in the battles they choose to wage. The only thing I said about them was that they were in line with what the majority wanted in this case. You took that and have been saying I'm a PHL disciple for days now. Drop that, please.
You're not?? Where there's smoke my friend there is usually fire! You stated yet again that C41 reps were in line with what the majority wanted and I take it by your tone that you were in fact part of that majority thus you agree with their actions and never sought to have them removed so you must hold them in high regard! If you are in or excuse me were in the PITT camp then you are still a part of the RC4 and sought no recourse for their continued B.S.
Oh for God's sake make up your mind! The Nic was bad for you?? Well, then maybe what happens next will be good for you. And what's this about you'd rather see US go out of business than to be junior? OK, so maybe that's how a bunch of us feel out here. See, we share that sentiment at least, so what's the problem? I'll tell you what it is: ALPA and its F'uked up merger "policy" that was rewritten to appease a UAL pilot group that doesn't even recognize itself from when this all was rearranged
I think you have me confused with somebody else my man, you never heard me say the NIC was "bad" what I stated was that it did not give me what you and the rest of the "anti union labor busting" usapa crowd thought it did! I wanted to and felt you should have been stapled to the bottom of our list seeing as how you had days of operations left. Having read the financials and being told that the last few pay checks came courtesy of AWA!! I didn't get my wish but accepted what I did get and quickly changed my focus from easties to company and getting the kind of pay check I deserve!
Funny you should mention merger policy and UAL! You see, you and the usapa crowd subscribe to the majority rules policy and you make a good point. UAL was the big dog then and the majority however you feel it was wrong for them to use their size and numbers to impose their will. Funny, are you not now attempting the same tactic that you so despise?? That's kind of hypocritical don't you think??
Fine then, why didn't you and your mighty democratic union agree to a fence? If you ain't coming here, and the rest of your pilots aren't coming here, then PUT IT IN WRITING AND LETS GET ON WITH LIFE.
You see partner here is where you fail to understand how the system works. We did offer fences and your mec beloved C41 led the charge!! Now you want to come back after the fact and say you want a do over well no can do my friend. This remindes me of the fellow who commits a crime and is offered a deal by the district attorney. He says no and goes to trial and gets life when the deal was 10yrs. Now he wants the deal. The DA say no way Jose you had that chance and you chose this. You have wasted our time and resources when this could have been over with the offerd we made. 1.8 million dollars the AWA pilots spent on mediation and arbitration. No do overs it's accept and move on or we go out of business.
Oh yeah.....I just remembered.....it's ALPA we are dealing with, which is why we are where we are. Funny that vetrider keeps saying the East walked out on JNC but fails to mention that you guys walked out on the special lockdown meeting in Colorado. Dude, I am so sick of ALPA blowhards that do NOTHING!
Well let me tell you something my friend. I can not control what Jack and the rest of your mec tells you but walk out of that meeting we did not!!!! Day one I asked ALL of your reps what they wanted and they hemed and hawed but never said a damn thing! Then Garland said lets set up yet another committee to which we said no! We made an offer to your mec to which your mec refused. It was at that point that BOS rep Garland said then we have nothing else to discuss. Meeting over!! We have never ever acted in the childish manner in which your mec has EVER!!! That's your's and every other east pilots problem, you do zero research and your mec leads you by the nose. I was there Be Carefull as I have been since the start of this. The information you get as a member is appauling!! I think the people of south korea get more uncensored news then you get by your MEC!!! RESEARCH SON RESEARCH...
23 days.
As the FPL get deposited.....so are the days of our lives.
