Owning vs Fractional??

[psysicx]

Where is Njaowner? He said that if he could afford his own plane he would. If you guys are saying its cheaper then why does he have a share at Nja?

 

[imacdog]

I think Bernie Madoff was the first one to come up with that Ponzi scheme called Netjets. Woops that's right a former Goldman executive thought it up. Let's see we get the aircraft for $20 million and sell a 1/4 share for $7 million each, then charge a monthly fee on top of that.

Yeah, because corporate operators don't have fixed monthly expenses at all, do they? Having a plane ready to fly is free, right?

 

[gret]

Where is Njaowner? He said that if he could afford his own plane he would. If you guys are saying its cheaper then why does he have a share at Nja?

I don't know the guy...but he speaks the truth and why are you calling him out?

Stop perpetuating the myth, or maybe the truth, that pilots are arrogant fools.

 

[SDCFI]

I love how pilots argue about whether owning or fractional or charter is better and what makes the most financial sense. If you guys were so smart you'd all be riding in the back instead of driving!

 

[imacdog]

Wow that was original, thanks.

 

[G4G5]

Yeah, because corporate operators don't have fixed monthly expenses at all, do they? Having a plane ready to fly is free, right?

We don't purposely fly slow or mark up catering yada yada......

Whats a 1/4 share owner to do when NetJets says you owe us $XX for your sat phone time? But I thought the phone was XX a minute? Too bad

 

[CA1900]

We don't purposely fly slow ...

Neither do we. We fly at max cruise speed when an owner is on board, unless there's an operational reason to do otherwise, such as avoiding a fuel stop. (And I recently talked an owner into going full-speed and doing a fuel stop, specifically to save him both time and money on a transcon in the Excel.)

 

[jonjuan]

Neither do we. We fly at max cruise speed when an owner is on board, unless there's an operational reason to do otherwise, such as avoiding a fuel stop. (And I recently talked an owner into going full-speed and doing a fuel stop, specifically to save him both time and money on a transcon in the Excel.)

You lost CA. G4G5 knows more about what you do than you do. :bawling:

 

[CA1900]

Sorry, I forgot. :laugh:

 

[Gulfstream 200]

You lost CA. G4G5 knows more about what you do than you do. :bawling:

Actually he does....and judging from the drivel you guys have spewed here thats not a great feat....

Regional airlines to Netjet might have been an awesome career move for many of you........but the lack of knowledge over why someone who can afford their own plane will vs someone who can't is pretty comical.

There will always be a need for charter/supplemental lift....just not in the grand scheme that was envisioned during the boom times.

 

[imacdog]

We don't purposely fly slow or mark up catering yada yada......

Whats a 1/4 share owner to do when NetJets says you owe us $XX for your sat phone time? But I thought the phone was XX a minute? Too bad

Can't answer my question I see.

 

[G4G5]

Yeah, because corporate operators don't have fixed monthly expenses at all, do they? Having a plane ready to fly is free, right?

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The question is so asinine that I thought that it was rhetorical, that's why I didn't respond to it.

Sure corporate operators have fixed costs and variable costs too, the difference is we pay them directly to the vendor without a middle mans mark up. [/FONT]

 

[jonjuan]

We don't purposely fly slow or mark up catering yada yada......

Whats a 1/4 share owner to do when NetJets says you owe us $XX for your sat phone time? But I thought the phone was XX a minute? Too bad

Just asked a friend of the family who flies fraxionally-he said no catering bills (and he orders a ton on his XL share) and no phone bills (and he uses often).

 

[jonjuan]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The question is so asinine that I thought that it was rhetorical, that's why I didn't respond to it.

Sure corporate operators have fixed costs and variable costs too, the difference is we pay them directly to the vendor without a middle mans mark up. [/FONT]

Are your ramp and overnight fees marked up?
Who pays the deadhead or pilot/ramp bills when the owner flies to the caribbean and stays 2 weeks?

 

[semperfido]

like your avatar. just sayin.