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Rez get of your high horse

What about the pilot who doesn't want ALPA politics? Remember one size doesn't fit all.

I have to give you that -- you are a piece of work. ;)


Negative. I said nothing of union politics. The attitude was like that of pilots who think commuting is a choice for some. With comments like.. just move to base. Usually but not always those comments come from a single guy with minimal responsibility....
 
Hey bluesideup...... looks like your fellow blue pilots have brought up unions and politics.... so since the door is open.... try this....

If you guys get bought out..... if.... most likely it will be by a union carrier... if you don't have representation, the union guys are not going to represent you. Nor shall they be expected. Nor can they, they have no legal rights. You will count on their benevolence. No one cares about jB pilots more than jB pilots. However if you don't have a structure and a legal basis to represent yourselves... you are at the mercy of the current.

Why anyone would choose to be unrepresented is truly astonishing....
 
Hey bluesideup...... looks like your fellow blue pilots have brought up unions and politics.... so since the door is open.... try this....

If you guys get bought out..... if.... most likely it will be by a union carrier... if you don't have representation, the union guys are not going to represent you. Nor shall they be expected. Nor can they, they have no legal rights. You will count on their benevolence. No one cares about jB pilots more than jB pilots. However if you don't have a structure and a legal basis to represent yourselves... you are at the mercy of the current.

Why anyone would choose to be unrepresented is truly astonishing....

How many TWA pilots and flight attendants are at American still? How about Midwest or Frontier/Lynx pilots at Republic? How many furloughed at American and oh yeah, possibly 300 at UPS too? How long does it take to get a contract at Airtran 5+ years? How much did ALPA pay United pilots in their settlement case, $44 million? Or how much did American's Union pay the company in their lawsuit years back-- $45 million. How long before USAirways mends their ways. Oh, I'd love to have everything SWA pilots have, but then again, ask the ATA guys too.
 
Negative. I said nothing of union politics. The attitude was like that of pilots who think commuting is a choice for some. With comments like.. just move to base. Usually but not always those comments come from a single guy with minimal responsibility....
Commuting is a choice for all pilots. No one is forcing you to live where you do, but moreso, no one is forcing you into the life of an airline pilot. If you want to work 9-5, be home every night, and have weekends off, you're either really senior or in the wrong line of work.

Every pilot knows (or should know) what they're getting into before taking this job. Are commuting or base locations a secret? I don't think so.
 
Commuting is a choice for all pilots. No one is forcing you to live where you do, but moreso, no one is forcing you into the life of an airline pilot. If you want to work 9-5, be home every night, and have weekends off, you're either really senior or in the wrong line of work.

Every pilot knows (or should know) what they're getting into before taking this job. Are commuting or base locations a secret? I don't think so.

When does it end? Especially with airlines like Colgan who have/had outbasing. The ability to shift "job locations" is large.

The point is the original tool that brought up the subject matter might've been a single guy with zero responsibility. Regardless he applied his values and lifestlye to everyone... nonchalantly stating... just move. Insnesative and disrepectful. Managment should provide resources in moving.. but when tools like this gladly do it for free.... it makes it difficult for everyone....
 
How many TWA pilots and flight attendants are at American still? How about Midwest or Frontier/Lynx pilots at Republic? How many furloughed at American and oh yeah, possibly 300 at UPS too? How long does it take to get a contract at Airtran 5+ years? How much did ALPA pay United pilots in their settlement case, $44 million? Or how much did American's Union pay the company in their lawsuit years back-- $45 million. How long before USAirways mends their ways. Oh, I'd love to have everything SWA pilots have, but then again, ask the ATA guys too.

Apply all of your examples above to someone without representation. You make the assumption that union reprsentation is suppossed to win favorable everytime and with findfalls.....

I'd get your jb pilot house in order... everything is done thru the legal process....
 
Now back to the original point of the thread........WHITE SHIRTS NOW!!!!!
 
How many TWA pilots and flight attendants are at American still? How about Midwest or Frontier/Lynx pilots at Republic? How many furloughed at American and oh yeah, possibly 300 at UPS too? How long does it take to get a contract at Airtran 5+ years? How much did ALPA pay United pilots in their settlement case, $44 million? Or how much did American's Union pay the company in their lawsuit years back-- $45 million. How long before USAirways mends their ways. Oh, I'd love to have everything SWA pilots have, but then again, ask the ATA guys too.

Yep you have all the talking points. Good job.

I used to have respect for the military until I worked at JetBlue. Your such a dumass you have no idea what the APA was fighting for when they were fined. Do you? But all you know is someone handed you talking points and all you do is barf them out.

So when D2 does the same thing at JetBlue you will apologize to D2 and get out of the way of Jetblue becoming a more efficient airline. You will simply surrender your career so Jetblue can lower CASM by $0.0025.

Freaking AF why do we have an air force any way. A Mesa new hire can finish last in the their class and fly a turbo prop for less money and no benefits.

In the meantime click here and learn:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Profile+of+the+American+Airlines’+Pilot+Sickout
 
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Yep you have all the talking points. Good job.

I used to have respect for the military until I worked at JetBlue. Your such a dumass you have no idea what the APA was fighting for when they were fined. Do you? But all you know is someone handed you talking points and all you do is barf them out.

So when D2 does the same thing at JetBlue you will apologize to D2 and get out of the way of Jetblue becoming a more efficient airline. You will simply surrender your career so Jetblue can lower CASM by $0.0025.

Freaking AF why do we have an air force any way. A Mesa new hire can finish last in the their class and fly a turbo prop for less money and no benefits.

In the meantime click here and learn:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Profile+of+the+American+Airlines’+Pilot+Sickout
Seems like most CA's I fly with latey are non-military and not in favor of ALPA so there goes your military mentality arguement. 300 furloughs at UPS ain't just "talking points". A good friend of mine is one of the unlucky 300. UPS is estimating an overall increase of 32% this year so they reinstated all the managers' salary increases and 401k matches, and gave themselves big fat bonuses just prior to announcing 170 furloughs the next Monday. I think it was already mentioned but their quarterly earnings were up 148% from last year and they took in a $700 million profit last quarter. Those aren't atlking points. Those are my friend's life.

As far as your own ignorance:
1. Why do we have an Air Force and comparing them to Mesa?? Maybe you should google "War is an ugly thing" by John Suart Mill.
2. Your second sentence should read, "You're such a dumbass" you uneducated knucklehead.
 
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Because Mesa would do it cheaper and would save the county lots of money. Just think of all the money we would save if we did have all those pensions to pay.

We all have friends at UPS.

Oh stop it. You are hurting my feelings.

Is 'atlking' a real word.

The Marines get it. AF? well, even AF guys can't stand other AF guys.
 
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