GerryG
Stirrer of pots
- Joined
- Apr 1, 2004
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- 147
B19,
I took a look back through your posting history. As of this writing you have 175 posts dating back to May of 2006, some two months after the Flight Options Pilots voted for representation. While the fact that your first two posts deal with Flight Options might lead me to draw the conclusion that you are only here to confront the 1108 at Flight Options, I also note that the following several posts you made referenced Avantair. I think an analysis of why and under what circumstances a person joins a fight (or a debate) can tell us a lot about them.
So I'm left with the unavoidable conclusion (in-spite of my former posted assertions) that you are in fact here to undermine the Flight Options Pilots negotiations - through FUD - in an attempt to ultimately prevent a vote for representation at Avatair. You must know that another property represented by the 1108, which successfully negotiates a contract under the auspices of the 1108, will invariably lead to an expansion of the union movement (specifically the Teamsters 1108) throughout the Fractional industry. A valid concern for you I'm sure. It is undeniable that when the Flight Options pilots negotiate their own contract, other pilots, employed within the fractional industry will then have incontrovertible proof that representation by the 1108 is advantageous. If you can only help prevent the Flight Options pilots from achieving their contract, you can continue to portray the NetJets Pilots their union and it’s successes as an anomaly. If the Flight Options pilots are successful in their quest that argument will evaporate immediately wouldn’t it?
Also as you have often said, "I love my non-union airline" and I'm sure you do, considering you currently have unilateral control over your pilots, I do not doubt you have a lot at stake financially in preventing the sequence of events I describe.
I think your pilots will inevitably choose representation it’s only a matter of when. I'm also certain the Flight Options pilots will achieve an industry standard first contract regardless of your attempted intervention. If you want to prevent your pilots from unionizing, I suggest that you focus your attention on providing them with a quality of life and a sense of respect they can be happy with. Based on your past comments here, I doubt you will demonstrate the foresight necessary to make that decision. You clearly hate pilots, at least those that have the balls to stand up for themselves and I'm sure you will viscously step on any among your pilot group who show any sign of organizational leadership.
You see that will ultimately be your downfall. What you don't understand is that standard union-busting tactics don't typically work too well with pilots. These tactics were designed to bust grocery store clerk’s unions. Pilots are typically way too type-A and generally too smart to fall for the type of rhetoric you have been advised to disseminate.
But it's ok; you are in good company, when it comes to listening to and heeding the advice of attorneys, ill-equipped to deal with pilots and the peculiarities of the RLA. Just ask your friends RTS and SMS.
I took a look back through your posting history. As of this writing you have 175 posts dating back to May of 2006, some two months after the Flight Options Pilots voted for representation. While the fact that your first two posts deal with Flight Options might lead me to draw the conclusion that you are only here to confront the 1108 at Flight Options, I also note that the following several posts you made referenced Avantair. I think an analysis of why and under what circumstances a person joins a fight (or a debate) can tell us a lot about them.
So I'm left with the unavoidable conclusion (in-spite of my former posted assertions) that you are in fact here to undermine the Flight Options Pilots negotiations - through FUD - in an attempt to ultimately prevent a vote for representation at Avatair. You must know that another property represented by the 1108, which successfully negotiates a contract under the auspices of the 1108, will invariably lead to an expansion of the union movement (specifically the Teamsters 1108) throughout the Fractional industry. A valid concern for you I'm sure. It is undeniable that when the Flight Options pilots negotiate their own contract, other pilots, employed within the fractional industry will then have incontrovertible proof that representation by the 1108 is advantageous. If you can only help prevent the Flight Options pilots from achieving their contract, you can continue to portray the NetJets Pilots their union and it’s successes as an anomaly. If the Flight Options pilots are successful in their quest that argument will evaporate immediately wouldn’t it?
Also as you have often said, "I love my non-union airline" and I'm sure you do, considering you currently have unilateral control over your pilots, I do not doubt you have a lot at stake financially in preventing the sequence of events I describe.
I think your pilots will inevitably choose representation it’s only a matter of when. I'm also certain the Flight Options pilots will achieve an industry standard first contract regardless of your attempted intervention. If you want to prevent your pilots from unionizing, I suggest that you focus your attention on providing them with a quality of life and a sense of respect they can be happy with. Based on your past comments here, I doubt you will demonstrate the foresight necessary to make that decision. You clearly hate pilots, at least those that have the balls to stand up for themselves and I'm sure you will viscously step on any among your pilot group who show any sign of organizational leadership.
You see that will ultimately be your downfall. What you don't understand is that standard union-busting tactics don't typically work too well with pilots. These tactics were designed to bust grocery store clerk’s unions. Pilots are typically way too type-A and generally too smart to fall for the type of rhetoric you have been advised to disseminate.
But it's ok; you are in good company, when it comes to listening to and heeding the advice of attorneys, ill-equipped to deal with pilots and the peculiarities of the RLA. Just ask your friends RTS and SMS.