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Timebuilder
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Pompatus
I don't have the patience to add my full story to the mix. Beautiful wife and three great kids. Sold'em on the flying idea in '99 back when things were great. Two years at a regional and then on to the majors for a 25 year career. Plenty of travel and income.
5 years of working two jobs (flying & corporate purchasing) and a whole lot of sacrifice on everybody's part. Two job offers both under $25K. Please. My friends (non-aviation) think I that Lear FO's should make $60-70K.
Just took another corporate purchasing job paying very well. I'm going to let the aviation game come to me now. Sure I'll still send out the ocassional resume, but the flying job at all costs isn't that important anymore.
However, if anybody wants a mature, intelligent, and friendly Lear FO and doesn't mind paying for some commitment, I'm available.
Pompatus
I don't have the patience to add my full story to the mix. Beautiful wife and three great kids. Sold'em on the flying idea in '99 back when things were great. Two years at a regional and then on to the majors for a 25 year career. Plenty of travel and income.
5 years of working two jobs (flying & corporate purchasing) and a whole lot of sacrifice on everybody's part. Two job offers both under $25K. Please. My friends (non-aviation) think I that Lear FO's should make $60-70K.
Just took another corporate purchasing job paying very well. I'm going to let the aviation game come to me now. Sure I'll still send out the ocassional resume, but the flying job at all costs isn't that important anymore.
However, if anybody wants a mature, intelligent, and friendly Lear FO and doesn't mind paying for some commitment, I'm available.
AA717driver
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Timebuilder
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Just to throw out the counterpoint to several of the posts about being a "responsible husband"... I'm not so sure that staying in a job you hate to provide for your family is any better... you end up miserable and that manifests itself in other ways.. drinking, physical and verbal abuse, withdrawal from others, general apathy towards your family. There are plenty of well documented cases of people taking the"responsible" path only to find that they resented their families beyond belief, b/c they felt the family was the only reason they were in a job they hated.
I had the chance to work a job I despised but made amazing money for 2 1/2 years, but I was miserable and unenjoyable to be around and just generally grouchy and mean. Now I make squat while finishing my ratings but I'm around aviation 7 days a week and never been happier. Girlfriend and friends all comment on how much more enjoyable I am to be around since I changed jobs.
Just something to keep in mind before lighting in to all these ppl who make career changes.
I had the chance to work a job I despised but made amazing money for 2 1/2 years, but I was miserable and unenjoyable to be around and just generally grouchy and mean. Now I make squat while finishing my ratings but I'm around aviation 7 days a week and never been happier. Girlfriend and friends all comment on how much more enjoyable I am to be around since I changed jobs.
Just something to keep in mind before lighting in to all these ppl who make career changes.
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Around midlife you question every choice you made in your life, and you realize you are the product of those choices. You don't think things are so great careerwise and wish you would have made a different choice. Of course at this point, you have those thoughts without having had to pay the cost of the alternative path.
I came close to pursuing the pilot career in my early 30s, but I never got past the financial numbers. At times its not a great consolation. One day though, I plan to flight instruct in my semi retirement. I no longer fly due to cost/time consraints.
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Re: Re: Re: Bravo! Well done brother Timebui
Don't forget about the country connections from the 70's to rock and pop.
Some people don't know this, but a country boy named Hoyt Axton wrote the Steppenwolf hit "The Pusher," and the pop hit "joy to the world" the one that says "joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea, joy to you and me."
I like Flatt and Scruggs for top notch bluegrass, but I've been able to hang out with Roger Sprung (The Progrersssive Bluegrassers) a few times. A very fine banjo picker. Believe it or not, so is Don McLean. A fretless banjo, no less.
enigma said:
Don't forget about the country connections from the 70's to rock and pop.
Some people don't know this, but a country boy named Hoyt Axton wrote the Steppenwolf hit "The Pusher," and the pop hit "joy to the world" the one that says "joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea, joy to you and me."
I like Flatt and Scruggs for top notch bluegrass, but I've been able to hang out with Roger Sprung (The Progrersssive Bluegrassers) a few times. A very fine banjo picker. Believe it or not, so is Don McLean. A fretless banjo, no less.
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I don't work for UPS, but from what I've heard, they pay by seat position and seniority, not aircraft type. So, the senior people want the smaller planes so they can be home more, and junior people can fly the heavier iron sooner than logic would dictate. I heard they had a 25 year old 74 captain a few years back. That could only happen at UPS.
For the pilot's wife, many people would be envious of your position. A lot of pilots who have made it are still single because of the lifestyle and moves, and they would love to have a choice like you have. I also agree that your spouse will be far happier doing what he loves, and his time with you will be far better. You say you understand the flying itch, since you fly, but what if you never could? What if your family obligations prevented it? Could your taking a ground based job help the situation? Would you do that for your family?
Whatever happens, I hope and pray that it works out for you. Good luck.
For the pilot's wife, many people would be envious of your position. A lot of pilots who have made it are still single because of the lifestyle and moves, and they would love to have a choice like you have. I also agree that your spouse will be far happier doing what he loves, and his time with you will be far better. You say you understand the flying itch, since you fly, but what if you never could? What if your family obligations prevented it? Could your taking a ground based job help the situation? Would you do that for your family?
Whatever happens, I hope and pray that it works out for you. Good luck.
pilotswife
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You people are cracking me up!!
Hi,
Just checking in to see if I got any good replies---
Love the hijacking!! What a diversion from the topic at hand, I am sure there are many of you out there who would make great psychologists if your flying careers don't work out!
Thanks for all the support and kind words-
One thing my husband keeps telling me is, "HOn, I am doing the whole flying career thing for us..."
Well sometimes I wonder, but his two best friends are pilots for CO, and he sees them home all the time with tons of money, but these guys are single with no kids...
I am now in Grad school, flying, doing real estate and running around with 2 boys to baseball games, swimming lessons and nursery school while he flies all day and works all night....
If he doesn't make it........I will
The tide is high, I'm holding on........
I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that......oh nooooo
Cheers have a great weekend!!!
Pilotswife
Hi,
Just checking in to see if I got any good replies---
Love the hijacking!! What a diversion from the topic at hand, I am sure there are many of you out there who would make great psychologists if your flying careers don't work out!
Thanks for all the support and kind words-
One thing my husband keeps telling me is, "HOn, I am doing the whole flying career thing for us..."
Well sometimes I wonder, but his two best friends are pilots for CO, and he sees them home all the time with tons of money, but these guys are single with no kids...
I am now in Grad school, flying, doing real estate and running around with 2 boys to baseball games, swimming lessons and nursery school while he flies all day and works all night....
If he doesn't make it........I will
The tide is high, I'm holding on........
I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that......oh nooooo
Cheers have a great weekend!!!
Pilotswife
TonyC
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Re: You people are cracking me up!!
I assume she cooks and cleans, too...
And on top of that, she sings!?!?!
I hope he remembers Mother's Day is coming up soon !
(Now if I can just get that picture of Debra Harry out of my head!)
Grad school, flying, selling, and playing Mom...pilotswife said:
I assume she cooks and cleans, too...
And on top of that, she sings!?!?!
I hope he remembers Mother's Day is coming up soon !
(Now if I can just get that picture of Debra Harry out of my head!)
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Career changing
Broadcasting, as Timebuilder and Airpiraterob will also tell you, is not the most stable business. (It's something like aviation.) It wasn't until I was 31 before I was making enough money and felt I had enough stability to start flying. So, I did, in 1982. I just wanted to get my Private, but I found that I enjoyed it so much that I went on to get all my single-engine ratings. I got my CFI as a way to put flying on a paying basis.
As my love for flying grew my dislike for radio also grew. I felt I was young enough to start in something else, so, I figured, I should do something I really like. I had two friends who had gone on to the regionals, so, I thought, why can't I? I had a First Class Medical and a SODA for vision, so vision was not the problem I thought it was when I was younger. Kit's "pilot shortage" helped drive my enthusiasm, so I made the decision. I already had my degree and only needed my multi ratings to be ready.
It took me nearly a year to get a full-time job. After my last day in radio I bolted out the station door and did not look back. When I finally went to work as a pilot, I found myself looking forward to going to work for the first time in many years.
And that's why I changed careers.
Unfortunately, it did not go as planned. My goal was the regionals, but my timing was bad. Hiring virtually stopped. No regional wanted me, probably because they thought that I, at 40+, was too old. I was getting nowhere fast. I felt I had to move on to something else. But, not for a minute do I regret changing careers. I would have had more regrets had I not made the decision.
Sometimes, you must do what you must do.
PS-Our law office investigator brought in a CD of "In-A-Gadda-da-Vida" this week. Our new receptionist-paralegal had never heard of the group that recorded it.
Let me try to explain. I was a career-changer to full-time aviation at age 37. I had loved airplanes and flying since I was a child, and always knew that one day I would learn how to fly. I wasn't ever sure what I wanted to be when I grew up, but an aviation career was out of the question because there were not many viable opportunities when I was 18, and I did not believe my eyesight was good enough. Also, there was no doubt that I would go to college. Although I majored in Accounting, I decided in my second year of college that I would work in broadcasting.CUEBOAT said:
Broadcasting, as Timebuilder and Airpiraterob will also tell you, is not the most stable business. (It's something like aviation.) It wasn't until I was 31 before I was making enough money and felt I had enough stability to start flying. So, I did, in 1982. I just wanted to get my Private, but I found that I enjoyed it so much that I went on to get all my single-engine ratings. I got my CFI as a way to put flying on a paying basis.
As my love for flying grew my dislike for radio also grew. I felt I was young enough to start in something else, so, I figured, I should do something I really like. I had two friends who had gone on to the regionals, so, I thought, why can't I? I had a First Class Medical and a SODA for vision, so vision was not the problem I thought it was when I was younger. Kit's "pilot shortage" helped drive my enthusiasm, so I made the decision. I already had my degree and only needed my multi ratings to be ready.
It took me nearly a year to get a full-time job. After my last day in radio I bolted out the station door and did not look back. When I finally went to work as a pilot, I found myself looking forward to going to work for the first time in many years.
And that's why I changed careers.
Unfortunately, it did not go as planned. My goal was the regionals, but my timing was bad. Hiring virtually stopped. No regional wanted me, probably because they thought that I, at 40+, was too old. I was getting nowhere fast. I felt I had to move on to something else. But, not for a minute do I regret changing careers. I would have had more regrets had I not made the decision.
Sometimes, you must do what you must do.
PS-Our law office investigator brought in a CD of "In-A-Gadda-da-Vida" this week. Our new receptionist-paralegal had never heard of the group that recorded it.
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