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klhoard

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Frozen human waste from jet crashes onto car
Driver upset because no-one wants to pay for damage, glob removal

The Associated Press
Updated: 9:27 a.m. ET Feb. 1, 2005

LEOMINSTER, Mass. - It came from the friendly skies, and caused quite a bit of damage.

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Frozen waste from a jet’s toilet smashed onto a woman’s car last week, crushing part of the roof and shattering the windshield.

A Massachusetts woman says no one is willing to help her pay for the repairs, or take responsibility.

Nina Gambone says federal aviation officials determined the chunk of frozen debris came from a jet’s lavatory. But, a spokesman says they can’t do anything unless it can identify the airline responsible.

Gambone says she called her fire department in Leominster, which says they can’t remove the glob because it is classified as hazardous waste.

The only good news is the woman and her 13-year-old son had just left the car before it was hit.



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A Massachusetts woman says no one is willing to help her pay for the repairs, or take responsibility.

Nina Gambone says federal aviation officials determined the chunk of frozen debris came from a jet’s lavatory. But, a spokesman says they can’t do anything unless it can identify the airline responsible.

Gambone says she called her fire department in Leominster, which says they can’t remove the glob because it is classified as hazardous waste.

The only good news is the woman and her 13-year-old son had just left the car before it was hit.
It's pretty simple, she gets an attorney and sues the airport. If it hit just after she got out of the car, she should know what time it was. Radar tapes would determine whether or not the plane was going into what airfield and could possibly point out which aircraft it was.
 
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klhoard said:
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I doubt it as well. What dunce would go to the FAA in a vain attempt at seeking to be made whole again.
 
Island Hopper said:
It sounds like neither her or her son were hurt. So comprehensive insurance should cover any damages.
I get it, I pay higher insurance so that large corporations can go around and negligently damage cars. As a result, it raises my car insurance rates. That's coool. But in the meantime, who gets the kids to the sitter, drives the lady to work and runs around getting three estimates for the repair work and then pays for the rental car while the car is in getting repaired? Me? Just because I also pay car insurance?

I don't get it? If I get drunk and sideswipe a bunch of cars when I leave a tavern, or I'm too busy talking on my cell phone and do the same, shouldn't I be allowed the same right to be so cavalier. After all, if no one is hurt, their insurance will pick up the tab...what's the harm?
 
FN FAL said:
I get it, I pay higher insurance so that large corporations can go around and negligently damage cars. As a result, it raises my car insurance rates. That's coool. But in the meantime, who gets the kids to the sitter, drives the lady to work and runs around getting three estimates for the repair work and then pays for the rental car while the car is in getting repaired? Me? Just because I also pay car insurance?

I don't get it? If I get drunk and sideswipe a bunch of cars when I leave a tavern, or I'm too busy talking on my cell phone and do the same, shouldn't I be allowed the same right to be so cavalier. After all, if no one is hurt, their insurance will pick up the tab...what's the harm?

then you sue the tavern for getting you drunk or you sue the cell company for letting you talk on the phone while driving..... :P
 
FN FAL said:
I get it, I pay higher insurance so that large corporations can go around and negligently damage cars. As a result, it raises my car insurance rates. That's coool. But in the meantime, who gets the kids to the sitter, drives the lady to work and runs around getting three estimates for the repair work and then pays for the rental car while the car is in getting repaired? Me? Just because I also pay car insurance?

I don't get it? If I get drunk and sideswipe a bunch of cars when I leave a tavern, or I'm too busy talking on my cell phone and do the same, shouldn't I be allowed the same right to be so cavalier. After all, if no one is hurt, their insurance will pick up the tab...what's the harm?

Yep! I was hit by someone on the highway who took off. I got a hold of their insurance and they would not pay because "he said he didn't do it". DUH! That's the way it goes bro. When your car is damaged (whether by another car or $hit) you are the only one inconvenienced. (btw, I am not saying it is right, but that's how it is). Soooooo, the answer is...the insurance should pay.
 
Why didn't you have it investigated as a hit-and-run? Police take that sort of thing very seriously, and the perp would be looking at a lot more than just an insurance claim...



capt. megadeth said:
Yep! I was hit by someone on the highway who took off. I got a hold of their insurance and they would not pay because "he said he didn't do it". DUH! That's the way it goes bro. When your car is damaged (whether by another car or $hit) you are the only one inconvenienced. (btw, I am not saying it is right, but that's how it is). Soooooo, the answer is...the insurance should pay.
 
Not much you can do in this case but say $hit happens.
FN FAL said:
I doubt it as well. What dunce would go to the FAA in a vain attempt at seeking to be made whole again.
 
This is a case for CSI or a sleezy lawyer. They should have bagged the blue goose, taken it in for analysis, trying to determine if they are SWA peanuts, Delta snack mix, AA, United, etc... The unfortunate thing about large objects falling from the sky, I think the insurance companies call it an act of God. If her insurance carrier has Unisured Motorist claims department, she could use that, and pay a small deductable.
 
Well I guess you could say that she got Punched by a Blue Grumpy!!!!!!!!!
 
hey pu$$ylips,

Tell your mom to stop overloading the lav in the CO 757. That things a big honker but geez I know it would have a tough time handling that load.

Indy, what are the dates? PM me or call me dont text that's for Liberals.
 
I believe this would be classified as a "$hit and run accident". :rolleyes:TC
 
So how's the plumbing work on passenger jets? This obviously isn't the first time this has happened. Are there some kind of weak er,"dump" valves that occasionally "burp"? Did somebody not close the hole they suck the used blue stuff out of? Anybody?

I was instructing about two years ago. I was on a long ILS final and suddenly about a soup-ladle sized semi frozen bluish-brownish glob splattered on our windshield. I'm just glad it wasn't any bigger or frozen through, might have been too much for the 172's windshield.
 
vc10 said:
Why didn't you have it investigated as a hit-and-run? Police take that sort of thing very seriously, and the perp would be looking at a lot more than just an insurance claim...

Well, first off, I was very young at the time and I did not know any better. Secondly, I think the Chicago PD have much more to worry about than a hit and run on the highway esp. since noone was hurt.
 
coolyokeluke said:
So how's the plumbing work on passenger jets? This obviously isn't the first time this has happened. Are there some kind of weak er,"dump" valves that occasionally "burp"? Did somebody not close the hole they suck the used blue stuff out of? Anybody?

I was instructing about two years ago. I was on a long ILS final and suddenly about a soup-ladle sized semi frozen bluish-brownish glob splattered on our windshield. I'm just glad it wasn't any bigger or frozen through, might have been too much for the 172's windshield.

There are a couple of different types. First and foremost, all lav service areas have a lav service panel, which is a door that is flush with the aircraft :) This door provides no seal. On turboprops and some smaller coroporate jets, after opening a presumably sealed "dust cap" you will find what is termed a "doughnut". This does provide a seal within the lav service pipe on the aircraft, and requires a special tool to remove. It's a royal pain to remove and replace. After removal, you have to hook up the hose and pull a handle to release the um, good stuff.

Other aircraft have a "trap door" inside the pipe, which is most definitely sealed. After opening the main cover and hooking up the hose, you release the catch on the trap and then pull the handle to let the blue river flow. Closing the outermost cover on the pipe will close and lock the inner most trap door. This system is much more perferable than the other one, as it does not require you to get your hands anywhere near the poo.

On vaccuum systems, you move a latch that opens a clamshell and then close it. Other systems on older aircraft have catches that you have to open, but those doors are not visible to the naked eye. Some aircraft, like a GII and a GIII may not have the inside trap door.

Most problems with lavs occur when the pull handle to release the poo is not seated back in properly, allowing liquids to drain right down to the dust cover. On long flights, they will freeze and you can't get the stuff out without letting it thaw first.

For a frozen tud to fly out (do frozen turds fly?), the external service door has to be left open, open in flight, or completely separate from the aircraft. The dust cover for the lav pipe must fall off, not be seated properly, or not be put on at all. Then, any other catch mechanisms must have failed. Finally, the pull handle must not be reasted properly. Really, for a turd to come flying out, there has to be a lot of things not being done properly or working properly.
 
capt. megadeth said:
Well, first off, I was very young at the time and I did not know any better. Secondly, I think the Chicago PD have much more to worry about than a hit and run on the highway esp. since noone was hurt.
If it happens again, turn your car sideways in the middle of the highway and let traffic stack up until the cops get there. I assure you they will take an interest then.
 

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