Oh, you gotta see this...

[SpatialD]

Milehigh and nopax, I think you guys are right on. Nothing but respect for Starchkr on this site too - but I understand that you guys at AirNet have a pretty good operation. Unfortunately, in the world of 135 cargo, you're the exception as far as I can tell. There's about a handful of freight companies out there that don't suck, but I'm finding that the vast majority of mom 'n pop operators are marginally mediocre at best. And they give the rest of you guys a bad name, whether you like it or not. I'd like to come work with you guys, Ameriflight, or some other such outfit just because you stand out in the sea of trashy cargo operators out there. Don't F up your reputation as one of the more outstanding 135 operators, because that reputation may get you in the door when you go to your next interview. Know what I'm sayin'?

 

[starchkr]

Milehigh...I agree that we don't need to cultivate a negative rep anywhere, but we already have it just from being a 135 cargo operation. We are looked down upon as soon as we say we fly freight, no matter who we say we fly for. Most of the people that look down upon us are the ones who have themselves NEVER flown freight because it is too far below them to even think of doing it. I am pretty sure that the ones i was baiting and screwing with in the thunderstorm thread are a few of those poeple, and no matter what we say about how safe the operation is (or any freight operation for that matter) they will still see up as trash because of our industry. Unfortunately these are the same people we will have to work with in the future when we move on, and they will still look down upon us then just because we flew freight at one time. It's unfortunate, but it's true.

SpatialD...Yes we are one of the exceptions to the 135 cargo industry. I know many out there that i just don't see how the FAA lets them keep operating. Yes they give us a bad name, but in all actuality, the bad name came from many many years ago when places like Airnet or Ameriflite didn't exist. The industry has always been filled with people who are willing to actually do things others are not, and because of that we got the rep. Still today, even though many of theose things have changed from the years past, we maintain the bad rep...and i can guarantee that we will keep it forever. As i said above to milehigh, it is because of the "i'm too good to fly freight," guys/gals that we get this rep. Until everyone begins to see that we are actually safe in what we do, they will continue to look down upon us.

Also, I really do not think that ribbing people on a thread is going to be detrimental to all of us...as i said, the ones who were offended are offended at everything everyone writes on here anyway...they see themselves as the gods of the aviation world, and will never change. If you don't see it their way you are scum, and should be removed from the industry.

 

[Art Vandalay]

Milehigh...I agree that we don't need to cultivate a negative rep anywhere, but we already have it just from being a 135 cargo operation. We are looked down upon as soon as we say we fly freight, no matter who we say we fly for. Most of the people that look down upon us are the ones who have themselves NEVER flown freight because it is too far below them to even think of doing it. I am pretty sure that the ones i was baiting and screwing with in the thunderstorm thread are a few of those poeple, and no matter what we say about how safe the operation is (or any freight operation for that matter) they will still see up as trash because of our industry. Unfortunately these are the same people we will have to work with in the future when we move on, and they will still look down upon us then just because we flew freight at one time. It's unfortunate, but it's true.

SpatialD...Yes we are one of the exceptions to the 135 cargo industry. I know many out there that i just don't see how the FAA lets them keep operating. Yes they give us a bad name, but in all actuality, the bad name came from many many years ago when places like Airnet or Ameriflite didn't exist. The industry has always been filled with people who are willing to actually do things others are not, and because of that we got the rep. Still today, even though many of theose things have changed from the years past, we maintain the bad rep...and i can guarantee that we will keep it forever. As i said above to milehigh, it is because of the "i'm too good to fly freight," guys/gals that we get this rep. Until everyone begins to see that we are actually safe in what we do, they will continue to look down upon us.

Also, I really do not think that ribbing people on a thread is going to be detrimental to all of us...as i said, the ones who were offended are offended at everything everyone writes on here anyway...they see themselves as the gods of the aviation world, and will never change. If you don't see it their way you are scum, and should be removed from the industry.

Well said!!!!!

Now can everyone quit bashing each other's company. We are all in the same boat here, and my company is not better than yours, and yours is not better than mine.

Serenity now, floks.


Art V.