Of these schools which would you choose?

[Kobe_238]

1.) Delta Connection Academy
2.) Air Safety Academy
3.) National Pilot Academy
4.) Flight Safety Academy
5.) Airline Transport Pilot Academy
6.) Phoenix East Aviation Academy

Thanks.

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[Lazy8]

1.) Delta Connection Academy
2.) Air Safety Academy
3.) National Pilot Academy
4.) Flight Safety Academy
5.) Airline Transport Pilot Academy
6.) Phoenix East Aviation Academy

Thanks.

Wow, talk about picking your poison... Beware of any flight school with the word "Academy" tagged onto the end of the name.

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[LewisU_Pilot]

1.) Delta Connection Academy
2.) Air Safety Academy
3.) National Pilot Academy
4.) Flight Safety Academy
5.) Airline Transport Pilot Academy
6.) Phoenix East Aviation Academy

Thanks.

7.) None of the above! Don't waste your time and money man.

 

[Sawmill]

Here's a thought:
1. Find a good flight instructor, not a kid building time.
2. Buy a cheap Piper Cherokee or Cessna 150 (IFR certified)
3. Earn all your ratings
4. Bore holes in the sky (Do a little instruction...you will be amazed at what you will learn)
5. Find a partner to share expenses and both build time (One a safety pilot, the other PF under the hood)
6. Rent a cheap multi airplane for 100 hours
7. After all the above expenses, invest the other $40,000. (approximately) you would have given to the flight academy.
8. At 1000/100 hours, apply to the regionals.
9. Revel in the fact you were not stupid and wasted your money on a flight school, that you followed your dream, you reached the hiring minimums in a respectable manner (and probably more quickly), and have some money to spare to offset the low wages you will recieve the first few years.

This is a tried and true method that I used and I am a better pilot for it (so I am told).
Just my 2% of a dollar.

 

[Metro752]

7.) None of the above! Don't waste your time and money man.

Lewis' flying program is horrible.

 

[Tonala2k]

Listen to Sawmill, because now that means you're listening to me too But just make sure that if you buy a plane, make it a nice one. Lease back is an option to allow you to afford a better plane. At least out here I know the owners don't pay a dime for it. That does however tie-up a bunch of money. But if you're looking into those other flight schools, you've got money to tie-up. You can also do fractional ownership.

Personally I loved ATP and the fit was just right for me. Learning was all up to me and the instructors never have more than two students. My instructor busted my chops day in and day out in the sim, in the plane and mostly in the class room. That's what I needed and the price was right. But I would still avoid large campuses.

 

[Tonala2k]

I'm I a kid building time?

Here's a thought:
1. Find a good flight instructor, not a kid building time.

We're going to fight! Just kidding. I bring this up because I agree with you. My question is this. Is that kid me?

I'm 24. 850TT, 150 ME, over 400 CFI. I hope to move on to flying Turbines before my wife realizes what percent of the household income is hers . I feel I do a darn good job at instructing. And as my wife will agree, I do a darn good job at putting my students first.

Out here we have retired gents teaching as well as us younger folks. Some people just want those 1k's of hours of experience.

My ultimate question is, are low hour CFI's do a disservice to pilots in training?

 

[Flying Ninja]

I'm with Sawmill's advice. At least the guy's smart enough not to list anything Embry-Riddle or that frackin' CAPT program.

 

[flyingnome]

that can sometimes be true but not always. I have flown with several "older" CFI's and felt that their "wisdom" was ill placed, had bad habbits and thought that they knew everything about airplanes. Theres good and bad on both ends...

 

[timeoff]

I agree. I have flown with an older instructor (late 60's) who discounted checklists, taught 0/0 takeoffs on lesson one and would miss radio calls every flight. He was my first instrument instructor and I know right away that he hadn't taught instrument students in a looooooonng time. He thought I needed 140 hours for the checkride.

He also taught that you should keep the engine up above 2000 rpm after the runup so your gyros wouldn't slow down. So there I am at the hold short line, standing on the brakes with the engine firewalled to keep this guy happy....into position and hold....still firewalled....he's like "this is how I want you to do every takeoff from here on out".

That was our last flight together.

 

[taters]

go to shebles

 

[gkrangers]

I'm with Sawmill's advice. At least the guy's smart enough not to list anything Embry-Riddle or that frackin' CAPT program.

Well since he's not looking for a college, then that would make sense. CAPT is done, btw.

 

[coltsfn8888]

Delta Connection Academy is well worth the money. Even though you will pay a little more for your training you will be a much better pilot. They have difficult standards which their instructors must teach to in order to better serve you the paying customer. Other schools will hire instructors that will allow you to build bad habits. At DCA all of our flight training is standardized so from day one you will be doing every thing the proper way. In addition DCA is airline owned and operated. Our flight instructors a guaranteed an interview at a Delta Connection Airline of their choice. We've trained more pilots in the last ten years than any other flight school in the country.

 

[coltsfn8888]

The above statement is complete bull$hit. I only put it up so that when you look into this school you are ready for their marketing tactics. This is a school you should not only walk away from you should run. The money is not worth it. They will suck all the fun out of your flying. They will treat you like garbage and you can build your time to get to the airlines much quicker elsewhere.

 

[VW Pilot]

I wish I was Les Abend....

 

[Tonala2k]

So let's focus on flight school characteristics more than the actual flight schools. Let's be objective and let the students learn for themselves. I guess it goes back to "give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish and he eat for a life time." I'm sure many on her are CFI's so we should act like it. Meaning professional. If set the example here then students will see the contrast as they interview the many different flight schools

 

[Flying Ninja]

Well since he's not looking for a college, then that would make sense. CAPT is done, btw.

CAPT got dropped by Embry-Riddle but supposedly they're going to make an announcement that they got bought out by some company and will continue their operation. I don't know what brand they will continue as but one thing is for sure, their management sucks and they will hang you out to dry without losing any sleep.

 

[gkrangers]

CAPT got dropped by Embry-Riddle but supposedly they're going to make an announcement that they got bought out by some company and will continue their operation. I don't know what brand they will continue as but one thing is for sure, their management sucks and they will hang you out to dry without losing any sleep.

I agree about the management. I dunno about them being "bought out". Didn't hear that, but who knows. I know they had to finish up the people currently in the program, and weren't taking any new ones.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

Lewis' flying program is horrible.

As was your mom last night. Tell her I want a refund!

 

[SBD]

DCA is expensive, trust me I know. Part 61 FBOs you never know what you might get as far as an instructor. As someone mentioned above some part 61 instructors view checklists as "optional" for the flight. And for the person who metioned to buy your own plane C-150 or Piper forgot to mention how much the insurance is going to cost your low time a$$ and the maintainence required to keep that plane flying at the rate you are looking to build time. Is there one answer to solve it all, no! Just do your research and do what's best for you. Just because someone had a problem with their flight school does not mean it won't work for you.

 

[VW Pilot]

Ari-Ben Aviator??? what about them??
I heard they have old planes, but all training is multi engine, and they use no simulators, pretty good on program costs...

Any experiences with ARI BEN???

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

I know Some peple that trained there, if you wanna talk PM Me. I heard good and bad things

 

[MTpilot]

Sheble's

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

Buffy,

He was talking about Ari-Ben, not DCA. If you bothered to read the post, two above yours, you'd know that.

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

Buffy,

You should be a comedian. Your witty remarks are as good as those seen in a bad stand-up routine. Last I checked this was a forum not an English class. Glad to see that you are still making personal attacks instead of sticking to the subject at hand. Will you ever respond to what people ask you, or is it when they make a valid point that you can't answer you mount some stupid attack? It's not my fault that you didn't read the post. So stop looking for any opportunity to hammer me. Listen, you're the last person that should be attacking others short-comings especially since you have so many yourself. Trust me I've seen you.

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

Buffy,

I'm not Jagboy, as you have indicated in a few post today, and you wouldn't know me if I was standing right next to you. And my point is, someone who looks like a circus midget probably shouldn't be making fun of others in any way, shape or form. Did you not refer to me in another post as a “tard”? Does that not qualify as a personal attack? Did you read the rules for this forum? Do these rules not apply to you? If you stop putting in your two-cents about people every opportunity you get this would be a much better place. Again, stick to the subject matter of the forum and stop worrying about everyone else.


As far as effective communication is concerned, I think I'm conveying my point to everyone on here just as well as you are. I didn't realize that, as military test pilot, you were that fluent in the FOI. Must say something for your Alma Marta.

 

[cobraman]

Ok there TRG...aka jagboy69... I've seen you too...what's your point?

Also, isn't effective communication mentioned more than a few times in the FOI? Based on the majority of your postings, that is not one of your strong suits. How you convey anything meaningful to your students is inconceivable..

You ever hear of a damn IP address? I live in Florida, TRG has an IP address from the Northeast. You are sooo intelligent are you Scott?

 

[cobraman]

A target? I think DCA is your REAL target. Answer this question and dont beat around the bush. Seeing you have such a distaste for DCA and feel they screwed you over as an employee, HOW IS WRITING THAT CHECK EACH MONTH FOR YOUR LOAN????? The question in this thread was about school selection, not where you choose to work. Was the instruction you received from Erik not the best? Care to badmouth him here too like you do with everyone and everyplace else? You disgust me.uke:

Training at DCA is worth the money in my opinion. And that's my opinion, If you don't like it scott, shove it up your ass!