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Fokkerflyer

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Here we go again...yet another fascinating flight dept featured: NREC (who..?) a fascinating operator with a King Air and a Cherokee Six. Where do they find these yahoos? Reading the article just makes me wanna tear my eyeballs out of my head...

Never mind the "squawk ident" pages, perfect for those who like their name, title and ratings to be public knowledge.

Is it just me, or has this magazine gone from coffee table pride to wipe-your-ass material? I have been reading this thing for over ten years and used to read every page, now it's barely enough for just one bathroom visit.

Oh yeah, and by now I know Clay Lacy has over 25 misc type ratings...

Anyone care to comment?

FF
 
Fokkerflyer said:
Anyone care to comment?

FF
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I remember thinking it was a shameless industry glory hole when I read it 17 years ago. Hasn't gotten any better, I'm afraid. And yeah, Squawk Ident is just an opportunity for people to get their name, position and flight department in a national rag. Kinda like an Avweb forum for corporate pilots.
 
Although, I too thought it was a bit hokey, perhaps they are just showing that all kinds fly corp acft and they aren't all 5 jet fleets.
 
One of my co-workers just won a nice camera from them. I agree with the comments though. I hope my department is never featured in there.
 
Fokkerflyer said:
Here we go again...yet another fascinating flight dept featured: NREC (who..?) a fascinating operator with a King Air and a Cherokee Six. Where do they find these yahoos? Reading the article just makes me wanna tear my eyeballs out of my head...

Never mind the "squawk ident" pages, perfect for those who like their name, title and ratings to be public knowledge.

Is it just me, or has this magazine gone from coffee table pride to wipe-your-ass material? I have been reading this thing for over ten years and used to read every page, now it's barely enough for just one bathroom visit.

Oh yeah, and by now I know Clay Lacy has over 25 misc type ratings...

Anyone care to comment?

FF
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hahaha I thought it was a sweet looking cherokee six though!! I do agree that the mag is only useful when you need something to stare at while on the john.
 
Why won't they print my stuff in squawk ident, dammit, I am a chief pilot, C152!
I'm also director, head ******, and chief mechanic; oh, and CEO.

I want some fu**ing respect.

Seriously, though, the only useful thing in that magazine is that weather dude.
 
maximizer said:
Although, I too thought it was a bit hokey, perhaps they are just showing that all kinds fly corp acft and they aren't all 5 jet fleets.
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My thoughts exactly. Professional pilots don't just fly for big corporations or legacy airlines. They want to be relevant to many different types of operators. I read the article and it seems more like an ad for the company vs. a discussion about how the King Air is used. I'd love to see future articles about how VLJs are used effectively - and maybe some articles about flying for the different fractionals...

I agree that the magazine has been going downhill for awhile now. It must be hard to recruit "interesting" flight departments because a number of recent editions dealt with lame Police Department helo operations. Again, once in awhile is OK (because those pilots are professionals too), but not as frequently as they have been doing these articles. Personally, I'd like to see a good, interesting flight department profile every month and then a test flight flown by anyone but Clay Lacy. What happened to the regional airline profiles they used to do? I hope it gets better because it seems a bit lackluster at the moment.
 
johnsonrod said:
My thoughts exactly. Professional pilots don't just fly for big corporations or legacy airlines. They want to be relevant to many different types of operators. I read the article and it seems more like an ad for the company vs. a discussion about how the King Air is used. I'd love to see future articles about how VLJs are used effectively - and maybe some articles about flying for the different fractionals...

I agree that the magazine has been going downhill for awhile now. It must be hard to recruit "interesting" flight departments because a number of recent editions dealt with lame Police Department helo operations. Again, once in awhile is OK (because those pilots are professionals too), but not as frequently as they have been doing these articles. Personally, I'd like to see a good, interesting flight department profile every month and then a test flight flown by anyone but Clay Lacy. What happened to the regional airline profiles they used to do? I hope it gets better because it seems a bit lackluster at the moment.
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The magazine only panders to advertisers and regional airlines don't advertise, or, for the most part, buy the stuff advertised in the magazine.

Also, you probably have noticed, the articles are all by the same writers every month--a recipe for dull content.
 
how many articles can you write about international ops?
 
skiandsurf said:
Over 25 type ratings, and only 1 title......SCAB.
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That is hilarious! With that said, he has built a pretty impressive FBO/Charter/Aircraft Management/Maintenance business at VNY. You gotta give him some credit for that. He employs quite a few pilots. Obviously he should leave the creative writing to others...

I think they should focus on more interesting flight department profiles every month - not 7 months out of the year. More info on growth of the fractional industry might be interesting too. And I agree - I have read enough about police helo units in South Dakota.
 
OK since I started this thread bitching about pro-pilot I feel obligated to provide all of you with good alternate reading material for on the can.
I was at the doctor's office yesterday and found this mag called the family handyman. Cool for those home improvement/ pilot guys like myself.

Here's the link:https://www.rd.com/offer/fh/freeyear/index.jsp?trkid=dg_tfh_google

Two years for 24 bucks. I know Profilactic Pilot mag is free, but 24 bucks shouldn't be too hard to come up with.

:D
FF
 
I tried to convey some of my opinions (simular to yours) to Pro Pilot in one of their surveys, since then they will no long renew my subscription, even after several tries. No more jokes on the john for me!
 
New Internet Mag

Well, I'd be willing to put my money where my mouth is and be pro active at the same time. I too agree that the current Professional Pilot magazine has lost quite a bit of its luster and think that a new mag ( read competition) may be in order. There is enough talent here and elsewhere to start up a new magazine, maybe an e zine to begin with. Like most other readers I favor the weather articles and the approach plate brain busters from Professional pilot. I believe we have enough people here to initially contribute articles and change the format to reflect the current age and technology of the todays aviation structure. I would like to see more relavent articles such as the new airspace and sid/star requirements. Also, I believe we could develop a performance section, which is most pilots achilles heal. The issues that are pressing today; for instance we could have had multiple articles explaining the new 135 A008 that has been killing many flight departments. I would like to raise this idea up the flag pole to see if there are any others who would support this idea.
 
here are his type ratings:


A/B-17 A/B-377 A/B-727 A/B-747 A/B-747-4 A/CE-500 A/CV-240 A/CV-340 A/CV-440 A/CW-46 A/DC-2 A/DC-3 A/DC-4 A/DC-6 A/DC-7 A/DC-8 A/DC-9 A/DC-10 A/F-27 A/G-1159 A/G-IV A/HS-125 A/IA-JET A/L-18 A/LR-JET A/M-202 A/M-404 A/MS-760 A/N-B25 A/T-33
 
Any truly respectable flight department wants to fly under the radar. You will never see anything in there but bottom feeders. The rag is an avenue to parade the latest and greatest tubine glass.

I've had enough Clay Lacy selfcongratulatory BS for a lifetime. Take your huge EGO and retire. Do something worthwhile like fishing! The last thing I wanna be doing at that age is pushing 135 jurassic jets around the country.
 
I've heard that any tom, dick, or jane willing to drop 20k on a G4 type can work for him. Is it a coincidence that a scab is operating a "pay-for-training" operation?..."But it's such a great deal since simuflight gives him such a great discout!"....rrrrrright
 
Pro-Pilot

I run full speed to the mail box every month, to see if they've got another HOT picture of Betsy Wines from Meridian/KTEB in there!:p
 

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