Obama shakes hands

[stupidpilot]

And the mission didn't get finished. At GW stuck to his promise of liberating the Iraqis.

 

[100-1/2]

Never mind the Venus 737 that parked a couple of cabinet members on the side of a mountain in Bosnia to quash a revolt against thunder thighs! Talk about killing people over a lie.

You have to stand for something or you will(42) fall for anything(Lewinski).

100-1/2

 

[earhart]

Hey Look, I'll come on the military forum at my discretion, and if you don't like it, tough sh1t! Guys like you need to be put in check too.

As for your smarts, or lack there of, 3 percent is NOT a raise when inflation/cost of living is greater than 3%. While you were in the military, you should have taken advantage of the educational opprotunities they provided, but lets call a spade a spade and put it out there that typically, well........Never Mind.

You musta had plenta opprotunities, right?

 

[flyguy75000]

hahaha. That's laughable. Your military record. Sure, just let me pull down my pants and bend over so I can be on par with you. Now, my nuts are sweaty, so get to lickin.

Wow...for someone who jumped all over me calling me a racist for saying "Cribs, 'Ole Boy' and sistahs", you sure have a lot of nerve coming over to this board and talking this way to the people that have balls 3 times the size of your "sweaty nuts". If it wasn't for these good people putting their a$$es on the line, you might not have the right to talk $hit about them as you are so rudely doing now. But they go out and risk their lives so you can be an internet c0cksmoker day in and day out.

I'll bet your employees think you are just a jem to work for, you communist pr1ck.

 

[stupidpilot]

That was as big a smackdown I ever saw! Way to go flyguy!

 

[Abernathy]

I'll bet your employees think you are just a jem to work for, you communist pr1ck.

I didn't see anything he wrote that indicated he was a communist. Just saying..

 

[chignutsak]

Ah yes. Classic flight info thread. Reasonable first post, thread then hijacked by simpletons who feel inadequate unless they thump their chest and grunt their political bs. FWIW, I say fire Obama. He has had over three weeks to solve the economy. Eight years of incompetence not withstanding, I'd say three weeks to fix it is plenty of time, right? And by the way, ALL government agencies will feel some cutback pain. Including DOD.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Even the AF1 crew are probably counting the days 'til separation!

Probably not...you and I both know that the AF-1 pilot assignment is a coveted assignment. And competitive.

Guys just don't "Count the days 'til separation" in an assignment like that.

Col. Turner just took command of the squadron...I really don't think he is now "counting the days 'til separation"

Really , now....

 

[LRvsH25B]

And the mission didn't get finished. At GW stuck to his promise of liberating the Iraqis.

My bad. GW liberated the Iraqis at what cost? Was it really worth the lives of over 4000 members of the US military? I dare you to respond by saying it was worth the lives of 4000+ US Servicemen and women to liberate the Iraqis.
Who gives a sh1t about the people of Iraq? Who? Not to be disrespectful, but why would I want several thousand military members killed in an effort to help them. Why would you? They were no threat to us, unless they found the WMDs and you have a G14 classified security clearence and know differently from the rest of us, including GW Bush, as he admitted it was disapointing when he realized that Saddam had none.
I know why you think it's OK for them to die.......I just realized you have no problem disrespecting the men and women in uniform. You are out for your own agenda, and if a few thousand of our service people get killed, then that's just how it is. You are by no means worthy of the uniform, and that is apparent from you posts. I don't even think you served. Just becasue you say you did does not make it so. You're a wanna be poser and you should be ashamed getting on here and acting like you ever put the uniform on, disrespecting the men and women who actually served. Truly dispicable. Your thoughts could only be held by someone who have never served, someone who has never been in battle, and that is all brutally apparent from the lack of intelligent rational in all of your posts. I don't wanna see you back on here anymore being so unpatriotic. Your posts have no place on here. Let the people who respect the uniform alone. Please TRAITOR, Just leave us alone.

 

[flyguy75000]

LRvsH25B= The Pot

"Who are you to wave your finger...you must have been out of your head" Tool, The Pot

Funny how you mention disrespecting our uniformed servicemen and women, yet not a few posts ago you were telling one of those said men to "lick your sweaty nuts". Move to Canada you piece of $hiite.

 

[Jim]

LRvsH25B -

I served 20 years in the military to include Desert Storm, Solmalia and Bosnia.

And yes I think it Iraq was worth the cost. So do the majority of those who have served there. I have friends who have served multiple tours there and would go back again.

What have you done?

If anyone is disrespecting the military, it's you.

 

[LRvsH25B]

LRvsH25B= The Pot

"Who are you to wave your finger...you must have been out of your head" Tool, The Pot

Funny how you mention disrespecting our uniformed servicemen and women, yet not a few posts ago you were telling one of those said men to "lick your sweaty nuts". Move to Canada you piece of $hiite.

Let me get this straight, so becasue I told someone who served to lick my nuts, I am disrespecting the entire military? Are you kidding me? I have a disagreement with someone who once wore a uniform and now I am a military hater. That's laughable Jasper. Lets be honest here, he didn't serve, and you and I both know that. I guess those who didn't support the Iraq war are unpatriotic too? Man, STFU and the lick my nuts!! Check that, my Brown Eye needs cleaning, so get to it.

 

[LRvsH25B]

LRvsH25B -

I served 20 years in the military to include Desert Storm, Solmalia and Bosnia.

And yes I think it Iraq was worth the cost. So do the majority of those who have served there. I have friends who have served multiple tours there and would go back again.

What have you done?

If anyone is disrespecting the military, it's you.

Jim, knock it off.

You have just disrespected all the men and women who dies over there. How dare you even begin to disgrace their honor and memory by saying it was worth the cost. Ask their families if it was worth the cost. Their loved one died because of a pack of lies in a country that had nothing to do with us, while trying to "liberate" people who want us dead, and you say that was worth the cost? Ask those who have come home maimed, crippled, and unable to provide for a family or themselves. The majority of thise who served over there DO NOT think the dead are wrth the people if Iraq being liberated. They'll tell you all those people dies for nothing and their lives' were wasted. It's true.

Don't tell me, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? As long as it's the mission of getting US Military members killed.

Jim, go get yourself together, then come back and try it again.

For someone who claims to have served, you are way out of line.

 

[Jim]

For someone who claims to have served, you are way out of line.

For someone that has never done anything but spout dribble on the internet, you are pretty pompous.

I have good friends who have been been wounded and killed, and I have immediate family that has been wounded while serving in Iraq. They did not make these sacrifices in vain and their families know this. I've talked to them, supported them and cried with them.

You're beneath contempt. I'm done. Continue spouting dribble.

 

[Jafo73]

For someone that has never done anything but spout dribble on the internet, you are pretty pompous.

I have good friends who have been been wounded and killed, and I have immediate family that has been wounded while serving in Iraq. They did not make these sacrifices in vain and their families know this. I've talked to them, supported them and cried with them.

You're beneath contempt. I'm done. Continue spouting dribble.

Good answer. And that's why I started ignoring this obvious idiot who never served and will never understand those of us who did serve, or still are serving. All he can do is insult anyone who doesn't agree with his brand of kool-aid.

 

[flyguy75000]

Man, STFU and the lick my nuts!! Check that, my Brown Eye needs cleaning, so get to it.

Have you always been gay, or did you do some time in lockup?

 

[legendskid_44]

i didn't want to start a p1ssing contest, if i wanted to do that i would start a thread saying "p1ss here".

I'm a youngster compare to all you guys. If you severed in the military, you ALL were doing the same job and had one objective, Protecting this great nation from foreign and domestic threat. I would like to thank you all for your services.

I just started this just because i thought it was a out of the ordinary that a President shook the Marines hand that stands at his air stairs. Not who has the bigger ick contest.

 

[Cobra17]

"And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in."

 

[stupidpilot]

i didn't want to start a p1ssing contest, if i wanted to do that i would start a thread saying "p1ss here".

I'm a youngster compare to all you guys. If you severed in the military, you ALL were doing the same job and had one objective, Protecting this great nation from foreign and domestic threat. I would like to thank you all for your services.

I just started this just because i thought it was a out of the ordinary that a President shook the Marines hand that stands at his air stairs. Not who has the bigger ick contest.

But, mine is bigger!:laugh:

 

[legendskid_44]

But, mine is bigger!:laugh:

YOU WOULD just say that

 

[Oh-ryan]

Jim, knock it off.

You have just disrespected all the men and women who dies over there. How dare you even begin to disgrace their honor and memory by saying it was worth the cost. Ask their families if it was worth the cost. Their loved one died because of a pack of lies in a country that had nothing to do with us, while trying to "liberate" people who want us dead, and you say that was worth the cost? Ask those who have come home maimed, crippled, and unable to provide for a family or themselves. The majority of thise who served over there DO NOT think the dead are wrth the people if Iraq being liberated. They'll tell you all those people dies for nothing and their lives' were wasted. It's true.

Don't tell me, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? As long as it's the mission of getting US Military members killed.

Jim, go get yourself together, then come back and try it again.

For someone who claims to have served, you are way out of line.

Last time I checked, we have an all volunteer service. The war is entering it's 7th year. Most everyone still serving on ACTIVE duty (not recalled IRRs) have either enlisted during the past 6 years OR have re-enlisted at least once (and in most cases, two or more times) since the beginning of the war. Sure there are some stop loss folks stuck over there, but the vast majority of the folks are serving voluntarily. So, what does this mean- it means they are all aware of the consequences and they believe in the cause. So please do not use their sacrafices to promote you anti-war positions.

With regards to an earlier post about being the POTUS and serving in the military- I believe that anyone that seeks a position in the executive or legislative branch of the federal government should have served in the military. I won't sit here and say I am proud of GW's service, but I think that anyone who has the power to place people in harm's way must first have been in that position themselves.

 

[Speedbird34]

Last time I checked, we have an all volunteer service. The war is entering it's 7th year. Most everyone still serving on ACTIVE duty (not recalled IRRs) have either enlisted during the past 6 years OR have re-enlisted at least once (and in most cases, two or more times) since the beginning of the war. Sure there are some stop loss folks stuck over there, but the vast majority of the folks are serving voluntarily. So, what does this mean- it means they are all aware of the consequences and they believe in the cause. So please do not use their sacrafices to promote you anti-war positions.

With regards to an earlier post about being the POTUS and serving in the military- I believe that anyone that seeks a position in the executive or legislative branch of the federal government should have served in the military. I won't sit here and say I am proud of GW's service, but I think that anyone who has the power to place people in harm's way must first have been in that position themselves.

You wish The military does not provide the best leaders when it comes to many aspects of a country's progress. We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans. Some raise above that basic instinct and become well grounded and many remain as followers with very shallow and one track minds.
Leadership involves a lot more than learning to march or getting basic military training. Amoung the civilian population are some of the best minds in the world. We shall never shut out that majority in the interest of a military which I admire greatly but still represents just a small part of society veiwpoint.

 

[Cobra17]

We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans.

wtf? I never got to kill any humans.

 

[stupidpilot]

You wish The military does not provide the best leaders when it comes to many aspects of a country's progress. We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans. Some raise above that basic instinct and become well grounded and many remain as followers with very shallow and one track minds.
Leadership involves a lot more than learning to march or getting basic military training. Amoung the civilian population are some of the best minds in the world. We shall never shut out that majority in the interest of a military which I admire greatly but still represents just a small part of society veiwpoint.

You are completely clueless and have absolutely no idea what the military is, how it trains it's leaders, or it's actual role in society. Why don't you stick to pontificating about something you know about, like, for instance, being a first class boob.

 

[Hobit]

Originally Posted by Speedbird34
"We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans."

WOW. Either a flamer or non-thinking product of our pop-culture TV educated public.
I mean, WOW!

He reminded me of LTC Dave Grossman's article On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs.

http://www.gleamingedge.com/mirrors/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html


Maybe speedbird knows his position and resents it.

 

[Oh-ryan]

You wish The military does not provide the best leaders when it comes to many aspects of a country's progress. We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans. Some raise above that basic instinct and become well grounded and many remain as followers with very shallow and one track minds.
Leadership involves a lot more than learning to march or getting basic military training. Amoung the civilian population are some of the best minds in the world. We shall never shut out that majority in the interest of a military which I admire greatly but still represents just a small part of society veiwpoint.

True statement, unfortunately we don't exactly get the "best minds" in Congress now do we? By ensuring that all of them serve in the military will help those that have "average" to "Abby Normal" minds relate to the sacrafices and demands of serving. It would directly influence how they vote on wars, funding and quality of life issues and it would give me "peace" of mind.

 

[Speedbird34]

Originally Posted by Speedbird34
"We take you guys and do a huge amount of brainwashing to condition you for the job of killing humans."

WOW. Either a flamer or non-thinking product of our pop-culture TV educated public.
I mean, WOW!

He reminded me of LTC Dave Grossman's article On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs.

http://www.gleamingedge.com/mirrors/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html


Maybe speedbird knows his position and resents it.

Hobit are you a little person? Military dictatorships suck which shows the military as a group is lousy at civilian leadership. Quick to come to mind are many retarded military dictators like Stalin, Hilter, a whole era of military retards from the second world war era. And all the recent military retards ruling and maintaining military dictatorships around the world. 3 of my brothers are military officers and my dad was also a military officer. But they were educated to a very high level as doctors and engineers. So I do know we have great officers out there but I disagree that the military is the best pool of leaders for our country.:beer:

 

[stupidpilot]

So what you're saying is that the three officers you do know are excellent leaders and incredibly smart individuals, but the ones you don't know are a bunch of mouth breathing, knuckle dragging morons? The military is a great place to learn about leadership, organization and learning how to make difficult decisions knowing that you may be consigning people to their death. It is also a great pool in which to extract people that can be of great benefit to helping to run this country. Our military knows better than any other one that their primary responsibility is to protect our freedom, not take it away. Tere is no way in he77 you can compare anyone in our armed forces to the likes of the two bit military dictators that have tried to rule the world.

Sounds like you are the retard to me.

 

[Hobit]

This message is hidden because Speedbird34 is on your ignore list.

 

[Oh-ryan]

Hobit are you a little person? Military dictatorships suck which shows the military as a group is lousy at civilian leadership. Quick to come to mind are many retarded military dictators like Stalin, Hilter, a whole era of military retards from the second world war era. And all the recent military retards ruling and maintaining military dictatorships around the world. 3 of my brothers are military officers and my dad was also a military officer. But they were educated to a very high level as doctors and engineers. So I do know we have great officers out there but I disagree that the military is the best pool of leaders for our country.:beer:

You're missing the point. No one has ever claimed that it's impossible to be a good leader without being in the service. I do think that federally elected officials should have served. I don't care how. If they were a 4 star general- great. If they did a minimum 3 year tour and never got promoted above E-2- that's fine with me.

I don't care if someone was a lowly private, airman or sailor that lead abolutely nothing for their entire 3 year enlistment. Even if they hated every minute of their service. The point is that they served. Will that make them a better politician? Maybe. Maybe not. Regardless, they understand what it means to serve and their service will profoundly impact their decision making process while in elected office.