NWA jumpseaters

[IB6 UB9]

Zing!

Ok...your point is made. We have a couple of renegade captains that are not playing well with others. Last week I had a JetBlue jumpseater onboard from BOS to MSP. He is one of our furloughed guys, with a recall class date here of March 12th.

He tried to get the jumpseat on the first NWA flight out of BOS, but the captain balked because he was "upset at you JetBlue guys". The jumpseater didn't push the point, or identify himself as a furloughed NWA guy. Instead, he caught my flight (the next one) back home to MSP. He rode up front and described the event.

I tracked the captain down and gave him a call. He sounded embarassed when he learned the pilot he slimed was one of our own. As with a few of our guys, he still has some issues, probably related to trying to find someone (or some group) to blame for the spanking we took in the new contract...and JetBlue seems to be a Target of Opportunity.

Got a problem with a NWA pilot regarding the jumpseat? Call the MEC office at (800) NWA ALPA and have them patch you through to Ron Hay, our Jumpseat Committee Chairman. Either he, or Tom Thornton (ProStan Committee Chair) can usually work it out. At this point, we're in the mop-up phase of the battle...trying to coax the guys hiding up in the hills of Guam that the war is over.

With all due respect, it is more than just "a couple of renegade captains". We appreciate your efforts though.

 

[737 Pylt]

Not so much old man. Just asked a question, no sh@t in sight. But boy I can bring some if you want?

Besides, me and Occam go way back.

And hell, it's still a valid question for all. I personally pray for a jumpseater war. Then maybe we'll get a union at jb. How's that for irony?

(And no I'm not serious. On which point though?)

Please, please, please, for the love of all things don't start a js war.......A jumpseat war benefits nobody. It is a privilege (sp). I think the JB jumpseater handled the situation great! I'd have done the same thing.
I would personally like to thank JB for their open js policy (although I don't commute). Its because of them that most airlines now have unlimited js!

737

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Please, please, please, for the love of all things don't start a js war.......A jumpseat war benefits nobody. It is a privilege (sp). I think the JB jumpseater handled the situation great! I'd have done the same thing.
I would personally like to thank JB for their open js policy (although I don't commute). Its because of them that most airlines now have unlimited js!

737

I'll say it again because I was so clear before:

"And no I'm not serious. On which point though?"

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Chef,

It was a pilot trying to get home. Period.

My brother-in-cloth had his hackles up about JetBlue pilots, and I indicated to him that many of them are furloughed from other airlines. In this instance specifically, he was acting like a hardass to a pilot that would soon be flying with him!

It was an effort to personalize the situation, not define further divisions. It made no difference if the guy was furloughed NWA or not...but it helped get this captain to understand the problem with being an extremist on jumpseat issues.

An answer I can live with, thanks.

 

[furloughed dude]

When I was working at Jetblue, I hated offline jumpseating. I knew that things that were happening there were lowering the profession. I'm glad I moved on.....

 

[737 Pylt]

I'll say it again because I was so clear before:

"And no I'm not serious. On which point though?"

I hear ya bro, I just don't want to see a js war, nobody benefits but mgmt!
You guys have an awsome js policy, and if it wasn't for you, we wouldn't. I just don't want to see it get all f'd up!

737

 

[Bavarian Chef]

When I was working at Jetblue, I hated offline jumpseating. I knew that things that were happening there were lowering the profession. I'm glad I moved on.....

If you're gonna claim it, you might as well own it and put some airplane types in your profile. Otherwise you're just another 15 year old insurance salesman.

BESIDES -- once we get a union on property, the lowered bar will be legitimized.

 

[ExAF]

Boy? or Old Man?

Not so much old man. Just asked a question, no sh@t in sight. But boy I can bring some if you want?

Besides, me and Occam go way back.

And hell, it's still a valid question for all. I personally pray for a jumpseater war. Then maybe we'll get a union at jb. How's that for irony?

(And no I'm not serious. On which point though?)

Sorry if I misunderstood the tone of the post. It sure didn't come off to me as as "just a question." I thought you were giving Occam (and every other NWA pilot) sh@t when he was the one trying to make some progress in this spat. Most NWA pilots are embarrassed when we hear of these jump seat denials and do everything we can to make sure alljump seaters and non-revs make on the plane each and every time. And while I'm at it, who you calling old man? Then in the next sentence you call me boy. Make up your mind. Judging from your profile, I doubt I'm much, if any, older than you and I haven't been called boy since I grew enough hair on my ass to weave a Persian rug.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Sorry if I misunderstood the tone of the post. It sure didn't come off to me as as "just a question." I thought you were giving Occam (and every other NWA pilot) sh@t when he was the one trying to make some progress in this spat. Most NWA pilots are embarrassed when we hear of these jump seat denials and do everything we can to make sure alljump seaters and non-revs make on the plane each and every time. And while I'm at it, who you calling old man? Then in the next sentence you call me boy. Make up your mind. Judging from your profile, I doubt I'm much, if any, older than you and I haven't been called boy since I grew enough hair on my ass to weave a Persian rug.

So did you fly an F-4 in MS Flight Simulator than, son? 'Cause eleven years ago makes you old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-4_Phantom_II

 

[furloughed dude]

Bavarian,

You aren't that gay dude that dates a flight attendent at Jetblue are you? I think he flew F-14s if I remember correctly.