NWA DC-9s

[YourPilotFriend]

Wayne county is currently in the process of planning expanding the Bravo concourse at DTW by 22 gates.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

There were 2 Midwest 717s over at the Mx hangar yesterday. That might be good for a rumor or two.

 

[PCL_128]

Wayne county is currently in the process of planning expanding the Bravo concourse at DTW by 22 gates.

How? You'd have to get rid of the entire 4R deice pad.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

How? You'd have to get rid of the entire 4R deice pad.

It would be moved to where the existing smith terminal is. Apparently the county wants to go forward with the aerotropolis plans. Massive foreign investments are waiting to get a piece of the pie.

 

[PCL_128]

It would be moved to where the existing smith terminal is.

I thought the plan was to finish the current construction on the new terminal, and then to tear down the Smith terminal and extend the new terminal to where the Smith terminal now stands?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I thought the plan was to finish the current construction on the new terminal, and then to tear down the Smith terminal and extend the new terminal to where the Smith terminal now stands?

No, the barry terminal will be knocked down and the terminal will expand in that direction.

 

[JAM-BRO]

There were 2 Midwest 717s over at the Mx hangar yesterday. That might be good for a rumor or two.

I heard a good rumor. Boeing offered NWA a fleet of 717s that they(Boeing) are getting on a trade. Rumor is that they are Airtrans. Combine 87 Airtran 717s with MidEx 25 717s and there you have NWAs DC9 replacement aircraft...

 

[PCL_128]

I heard a good rumor. Boeing offered NWA a fleet of 717s that they(Boeing) are getting on a trade. Rumor is that they are Airtrans. Combine 87 Airtran 717s with MidEx 25 717s and there you have NWAs DC9 replacement aircraft...

Interesting rumor. What's the "trade," though? The 717s for a bunch of new 737s?

 

[Heavy Set]

Interesting rumor. What's the "trade"; though? The 717s for a bunch of new 737s?

RJs from Pinnacle?

 

[Lucky Strike]

I heard a good rumor. Boeing offered NWA a fleet of 717s that they(Boeing) are getting on a trade. Rumor is that they are Airtrans. Combine 87 Airtran 717s with MidEx 25 717s and there you have NWAs DC9 replacement aircraft...

I heard this also...but it's too good to be true.

 

[airplane wizard]

Why did NW ever get rid of the MD 80's ?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

There were 2 Midwest 717s over at the Mx hangar yesterday. That might be good for a rumor or two.

Gee, that wouldn't have anything to do with the Kansas City Chiefs playing the Detroit Lions Sunday would it????

 

[Fly4hire]

I heard this also...but it's too good to be true.

The too good to be true prediction: NWA buys outstanding shares TPG has in Midwest early next year. NWA will keep the MKE hub, sell their -80's and park our -30's, and use the 717 as the -30 replacement, plus possible additional 717's from Boeing.

That will leave excess personnel at Midwest for remaining acft, but just heard that they might be furloughing some newly hired F/O's there. We are still short at NWA despite hiring and could easily absorb the Midwest pilots, especially since they have a training program (and manuals) for the DC9 that is almost cloned from NWA's.

As to integration, guessing something similar to the Midway deal from the 90's that fell through - ratio in Captains based on DOH, and staple the F/O's, and probably fence MKE.

Rumor has it that NWA has already assigned personnel to work on integrating the training and that NWA ALPA has been having closed door discussions with Midwest ALPA on integration.

 

[JAM-BRO]

Why did NW ever get rid of the MD 80's ?

Because we had a huge fleet of 8 a/c. Not too efficient.

 

[satpak77]

when the last A-320 is retired to the boneyard, the crew will fly back on a DC-9

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

That is correct....

Because we had a huge fleet of 8 a/c. Not too efficient.

.....NWA and TWA had been in talks to trade the 8 NWA MD80s for some of the TWA DC9-50s. TWA had around 20 copies of the DC9-50s. NWA and TWA never worked out the terms.

Side note: Allegiant Air bought and operated 3 of the former TWA DC9-50s for a couple of years before trading them in on the MD80s.

JAMBRO: Saludos y Feliz Navidad!

Ciao contigo, Pana!

 

[Max Powers]

when the last A-320 is retired to the boneyard, the crew will fly back on a DC-9

BLah bLaH can you say annoying who cares.

 

[NuGuy]

Ok, I am going to hurl what is possibly the worst insult on FI:

You all sound like you belong on Airliners.net. You guys are pissing and moaning like a bunch of planespottin', flight sim playin', virtual airline belongin' wannabees.

There, I said it...

Nu

 

[JAM-BRO]

.....NWA and TWA had been in talks to trade the 8 NWA MD80s for some of the TWA DC9-50s. TWA had around 20 copies of the DC9-50s. NWA and TWA never worked out the terms.

Side note: Allegiant Air bought and operated 3 of the former TWA DC9-50s for a couple of years before trading them in on the MD80s.

JAMBRO: Saludos y Feliz Navidad!

Ciao contigo, Pana!

Feliz Navidad y Prospero Año Nuevo a ti y a tu familia tambien!!!

Cuidate

 

[lowtimedriver]

OK,

Let me ask you this,...if your gonna be broadsided by an F150,...would you rather be in a Kia Rio or a 1973 Chevy Impala ? (nuf said) ?

The DC9's are quality built birds by Ol'man Douglass. Very thick aluminum, overdesigned by engineers with sliderules and pocket protectors. A very simple design, and built tough.

Some Pass do know that their on an older bird, some even stick their head in the cockpit to check the airworthiness certif displayed on the entry door wall.

The oldest '9's I see are about 1967 and the newest, are the -50 with a 1982 date of manuf.

We can still get them up to .82 cruise and fl350.:beer:

nevermind

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I recently flew on of NWA's old -9s. It flew great, and it looks really nice since we fixed it up, inside and out.

That being said, I think the Wright Brothers original instrumentation was in the cockpit (except for the color moving map and GPS, of course-Also: we took the ACARS out).

cliff
YYZ

 

[jetflier]

Hi!

I recently flew on of NWA's old -9s. It flew great, and it looks really nice since we fixed it up, inside and out.

That being said, I think the Wright Brothers original instrumentation was in the cockpit (except for the color moving map and GPS, of course-Also: we took the ACARS out).

cliff
YYZ

cliff,

What airline do you fly for ?

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

USA Jet.

We have 4 PAX -9s, two -10s and two -30s. The NWA bird was our last. We mostly do NCAA teams and NASCAR. Our next PAX plane will be a 737, probably a -300 or -400. Their is an outside chance that we may get an MD-XX first, but probably not.

We also (mostly) fly freighter -9s and freighter Falcon 20s, and we (mostly) fly out of YIP as our base.

cliff
YYZ

 

[Heavy Set]

Hi!

USA Jet.

We have 4 PAX -9s, two -10s and two -30s. The NWA bird was our last. We mostly do NCAA teams and NASCAR. Our next PAX plane will be a 737, probably a -300 or -400. Their is an outside chance that we may get an MD-XX first, but probably not.

We also (mostly) fly freighter -9s and freighter Falcon 20s, and we (mostly) fly out of YIP as our base.

cliff
YYZ

Cliff,

Do you usually fly the night stuff or the pax stuff? Can you give me an example of your last pax trip or night trip?

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

If U want a bunch of info, PM me with your email.

My last PAX trip was 6 days. We flew one leg/day at about 6 PM. Stayed in a different hotel each night. Day one we were business jetted (on our Falcon 20) to the plane. Day 6 we did a 91 leg home after dropping off Wake Forest.

My last freight trip was YIP-GSP pickup, drop at YIP. We then were on "Hot Crew"-went to go eat, and then flew YIP-TOL pickup-drop at West Palm Beach-91 to YIP. We started about 0900? and ended about 2300.

The freight trips are random-day/night/trip length/legs, etc. The PAX trips are normally daytime only-# of legs trip lengths vary.

cliff
YYZ

 

[Morning Wood]

Gee, that wouldn't have anything to do with the Kansas City Chiefs playing the Detroit Lions Sunday would it????

No. Delta does the Chiefs' charters.

 

[cessnapilot]

Hi!

USA Jet.

We have 4 PAX -9s, two -10s and two -30s. The NWA bird was our last. We mostly do NCAA teams and NASCAR. Our next PAX plane will be a 737, probably a -300 or -400. Their is an outside chance that we may get an MD-XX first, but probably not.

We also (mostly) fly freighter -9s and freighter Falcon 20s, and we (mostly) fly out of YIP as our base.

cliff
YYZ

why do you have a photo of Emirates on you profile???

 

[pianoman]

why do you have a photo of Emirates on you profile???

Hint: read his signature.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

My freind just started at EK, and I helped him get there. I hope he likes it a lot!!!

cliff
YIP

PS-I used to have a girl as my avatar, but I am not a girl.

 

[cessnapilot]

Hi!

My freind just started at EK, and I helped him get there. I hope he likes it a lot!!!

cliff
YIP

PS-I used to have a girl as my avatar, but I am not a girl.

That explains that! I was talking with some of their pilots... and heard the good and the bad. Hopefully your friend enjoys it. I flew on them for the first time last month. Not bad...