NWA/DAL what's the sentiment?

[upndsky]

When you first look at the Delta plans, they look horrible. That's because they are essentially health savings plans vs the traditional PPO or HMO most of us are used to. So the way the benefits are described is different.

I was shocked as well when I first saw it. But then when it was explained to me better, it made much more sense. It's not perfect and it might not be as good as NWA has (I don't know your plans) but it's not as bad as you think it is.

Now, the DPMP is a joke. I'm not sure who or why someone would sign up for that. For myself and my son (my wife has her own through work) it's way to expensive. But the Gold or Silver HRA are fairly competitive. Remember too that DAL puts money into that account each year. I thought it was $1,000 but in another post someone said it was $1,500. Anyway, that money is yours and if you don't use it, it rolls over to the next year.

I know it's a pain, but please look at the HRA and HSA plans carefully before you shoot it down. You might be surprised.

 

[DTW320]

When you first look at the Delta plans, they look horrible. That's because they are essentially health savings plans vs the traditional PPO or HMO most of us are used to. So the way the benefits are described is different.

I was shocked as well when I first saw it. But then when it was explained to me better, it made much more sense. It's not perfect and it might not be as good as NWA has (I don't know your plans) but it's not as bad as you think it is.

Now, the DPMP is a joke. I'm not sure who or why someone would sign up for that. For myself and my son (my wife has her own through work) it's way to expensive. But the Gold or Silver HRA are fairly competitive. Remember too that DAL puts money into that account each year. I thought it was $1,000 but in another post someone said it was $1,500. Anyway, that money is yours and if you don't use it, it rolls over to the next year.

I know it's a pain, but please look at the HRA and HSA plans carefully before you shoot it down. You might be surprised.

I saw that too when I first looked at the health insurance brochure they made available to us. The Gold or Silver premiums are much better, but those plans come with very high deductibles. However, I too saw the part about the employer contribution to the Health Reimbursement Account (HRA). I'm still a bit confused about it though. If DAL puts in $1500 dollars, and that account is automatically debited as you incur charges that go towards your deductible, doesn't that mean, in effect, that you really have no deductible or at least no deductible that you have to spend your own money on?

NWA folks have a year and a half before we have to consider the DAL plans so I'm sure it will become clearer by then.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No. The 1500 dollars goes towards your first 1500 dollars that would be out of your pocket. Then you have to pay the rest up to the family max. 3000K if I understand correctly.

 

[dtfl]

CLASS is what NWA left 5 years ago. NWA actually owned CLASS at one point, but moved on.

Our new system has those features and more.

It was a huge leap forward. Going back to CLASS is 3 steps backwards.

Not impressed.

Nu

Well Im no kool aid drinker but I can tell you what will happen. Vote No and you'll get this anyway.
We all will....

 

[Muskycat]

When you first look at the Delta plans, they look horrible. That's because they are essentially health savings plans vs the traditional PPO or HMO most of us are used to. So the way the benefits are described is different.

I was shocked as well when I first saw it. But then when it was explained to me better, it made much more sense. It's not perfect and it might not be as good as NWA has (I don't know your plans) but it's not as bad as you think it is.

Now, the DPMP is a joke. I'm not sure who or why someone would sign up for that. For myself and my son (my wife has her own through work) it's way to expensive. But the Gold or Silver HRA are fairly competitive. Remember too that DAL puts money into that account each year. I thought it was $1,000 but in another post someone said it was $1,500. Anyway, that money is yours and if you don't use it, it rolls over to the next year.

I know it's a pain, but please look at the HRA and HSA plans carefully before you shoot it down. You might be surprised.

The DPMP use to be a good thing and now it's, yeah a big joke.
I'm told the reason for steep premiums is to phase it out. I ran all sorts of scenarios and the DPMP just does not pan out. No matter how you run the numbers DPMP ends up being 2 to 3 times the cost.

 

[KCPilot]

NWA guys are happy now because they are parking jets and when they come over Delta guys will get furloughed.

JUST VOTE NO!!

 

[General Lee]

NWA guys are happy now because they are parking jets and when they come over Delta guys will get furloughed.

JUST VOTE NO!!

It will take 8-12 months after the DCC before certificates are merged into one. No one can just go between companies and fly eachother's planes until that point. (unless they go through a 2 week indoc and probably start at the bottom as a newhire) We at Delta will be getting 10 737-700s and 8 777LRs (38 crewmembers each plane) before we merge the certificates into one. Highly doubtful....... and right now we seem to be parking mainly RJs, which is a good thing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FmrFreightDog]

NWA guys are happy now because they are parking jets and when they come over Delta guys will get furloughed.

JUST VOTE NO!!

Have you actually read the documentation your MEC has put out regarding the JPWA and the SLI framework, or are you just shooting from the hip? Please tell me you're just shooting from the hip... otherwise your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

They say that we cannot mix pilot groups until SOC, but mixing has been done before. All it takes is a side letter down the road. Not that there will be one, but it is always a possibility. We can just train all the NWA guys as new hires and give them indoc.
The media put out by the MEC states that this cannot happen, so I guess we will see.