NWA cancels SEA-LHR, DTW-CDG, DTW-KIX-TPE

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Just read somewhere that NWA just announced those routes are going to be cancelled, in Jan and Mar respectively. I assume those planes will find better routes with more revenue potential. I guess AF's A332 from CDG to DTW had enough seats alone onthat route. I also have a feeling that 744 flying to KIX from DTW will be heading south towards ATL, maybe to start NRT or Sao Paulo.....?


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Don't know about LHR or CDG but the KIX's trip went from 7 to 5 days a week for the winter and reducing frequency in winter is the norm around here. And just in case you didn't notice NWA doesn't cxl anything anymore its all DAL's call..
 

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Don't know about LHR or CDG but the KIX's trip went from 7 to 5 days a week for the winter and reducing frequency in winter is the norm around here. And just in case you didn't notice NWA doesn't cxl anything anymore its all DAL's call..
I wasn't making fun of anything, just stating what I read. As far as Delta making the call, that is correct. We have also heard that 744s would eventually be coming to ATL (flown by NWA crews of course), and they have to cancel other routes to do this, unless they buy more 744s. Well, looks like DTW-KIX is the first to get cut. Eventually it was going to happen somewhere....And it looks like AF wants the DTW-CDG traffic to themselves. Your A333 on the route will also probably head for ATL, and then maybe to South America or over to Europe. You never know.....all with your crews, though. No doubt there.


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I saw no malice in your post, that said you can't fly a 403 seat A/C with 171 folks on board like I just did a few hrs ago from TPE to KIX and last very long. The economy is for sure going to be in the tank for a bit this winter be it Asia or Europe.
 

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I saw no malice in your post, that said you can't fly a 403 seat A/C with 171 folks on board like I just did a few hrs ago from TPE to KIX and last very long. The economy is for sure going to be in the tank for a bit this winter be it Asia or Europe.
I bet you are right. It is good that we can move planes around and have different size planes to find the right niche. I really do like Hauenstein and Cortelyu. Those guys really are smart and can find interesting routes to hopefully provide good revenue and keep us going in the right direction. Also, if they don't like something, they will yank it off that route quickly, stop the losses, and then find something else for the plane.

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I bet you are right. It is good that we can move planes around and have different size planes to find the right niche. I really do like Hauenstein and Cortelyu. Those guys really are smart and can find interesting routes to hopefully provide good revenue and keep us going in the right direction. Also, if they don't like something, they will yank it off that route quickly, stop the losses, and then find something else for the plane.

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Hope so and keep me in beer too. Never been to TLV and looking forward to it....Ok speaking of beer think I''l go get my free one...later ..
 

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Hope so and keep me in beer too. Never been to TLV and looking forward to it....Ok speaking of beer think I''l go get my free one...later ..
oh, you'll like TLV - it's a great layover. Really, I'm not pulling your leg, it goes very senior on the 767 here in NYC. We stay right on the beach, which is beautiful. Food's good... little to complain about at TLV.
 

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SEA-LHR still in Pars thru May, as is DTW-CDG. Once again, the General's information is incorrect.
 

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SEA-LHR still in Pars thru May, as is DTW-CDG. Once again, the General's information is incorrect.
We'll see about that....I hope you are right.


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SEA-LHR still in Pars thru May, as is DTW-CDG. Once again, the General's information is incorrect.

From Jetjack74 on Airliners.net:

"More bad news. As with the SEA-LHR, DTW-CDG and DTW-KIX-TPE will also be suspended 18JAN and 01MAR respectively. This was another internal memo from Inflight Communications. It said that more international flying opportunities would be come available in the near future, but they're unable to announce them as of yet. The transition has begun."


Now, I told you I read it somewhere, and this was it. Is it true or not? I don't know. But, sounds pretty specific. Maybe you should investigate it more. We'll see. Sounds like the planes COULD be assigned somewhere else, maybe ATL....


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Just read somewhere that NWA just announced those routes are going to be cancelled, in Jan and Mar respectively. I assume those planes will find better routes with more revenue potential. I guess AF's A332 from CDG to DTW had enough seats alone onthat route. I also have a feeling that 744 flying to KIX from DTW will be heading south towards ATL, maybe to start NRT or Sao Paulo.....?


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GL, Let's be clear - it is DAL that is canceling these flights and reallocating resources.
 

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GL, Let's be clear - it is DAL that is canceling these flights and reallocating resources.
You are right, who made the decision? Delta did. And you will really like Glenn Hauenstein, he is a genius. He will find the right planes for the right routes. In that Star Tribune article he stated the 744s are too large for current routes, so guys flying it will get to see new ones. That is good for you and me, meaning more profit sharing eventually.

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You are right, who made the decision? Delta did. And you will really like Glenn Hauenstein, he is a genius. He will find the right planes for the right routes. In that Star Tribune article he stated the 744s are too large for current routes, so guys flying it will get to see new ones. That is good for you and me, meaning more profit sharing eventually.

Bye Bye--General Lee
Hmmm. They sure seem to fly full now. Rare to have more than a few seats open. Replacing them with acft that hold a 125 less seats does not seem to make sense unless we increase frequency. Maybe there are other routes that are more profitable where they could use the extra lift. We certainly have more pieces to mix and match now.

I also heard a 744 will be going to the paint shop ASAP to get into DAL colors so they can parade it out of ATL as the new queen of the fleet and visible symbol of the merger. Suprise they don't just use any old WB or a 777 as they are all the same. Someone obviously realizes the value of the acft :)
 
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Hmmm. They sure seem to fly full now. Rare to have more than a few seats open. Replacing them with acft that hold a 125 less seats does not seem to make sense unless we increase frequency. Maybe there are other routes that are more profitable where they could use the extra lift. We certainly have more pieces to mix and match now.

I also heard a 744 will be going to the paint shop ASAP to get into DAL colors so they can parade it out of ATL as the new queen of the fleet and visible symbol of the merger. Suprise they don't just use any old WB or a 777 as they are all the same. Someone obviously realizes the value of the acft :)
The money to be made is not the people but the cargo. The passengers are just icing on the cake whilst the cargo makes the big money. And you can count on not much cargo leaving the US and lots of cargo out of Asia to ATL.
 

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Hmmm. They sure seem to fly full now. Rare to have more than a few seats open. Replacing them with acft that hold a 125 less seats does not seem to make sense unless we increase frequency. Maybe there are other routes that are more profitable where they could use the extra lift. We certainly have more pieces to mix and match now.

I also heard a 744 will be going to the paint shop ASAP to get into DAL colors so they can parade it out of ATL as the new queen of the fleet and visible symbol of the merger. Suprise they don't just use any old WB or a 777 as they are all the same. Someone obviously realizes the value of the acft :)
So, you are already questioning Glen Hauenstein? Uh-oh. Not a good start for you. He really is genius, and his counter part Bob Cortelyu is also really smart. They will find the right fit for "our" planes.

And, since we don''t have a 744 in our current DL fleet, a newly painted 744 of yours will make the transition look complete. Also, I am sure we would have LOVED to also have had a newly painted 787 there too, but......ah nevermind.... at least you have slots for them on your computer SLI model....


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GL, Let's be clear - it is DAL that is canceling these flights and reallocating resources.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nevermind. For this Christmas I look forward to the Three Wise Men to following the star to Terminus, and to lay at the feet of the manger of the of the Worlds Premier Global Airline bringing us, Gold, Frankinsence and a Seniority List that preserves the Status Quo. And there will be glad tidings of great joy amongst those who were fearful.
 
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where is kix? maybe they start to fly to cac pretty soon. or dtw to coc. then atl to dic.but only 8 times in 7 days....I could see them flying th 400s to fac.
 

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First off, KIX is Osaka, Japan.

Second, Fins I am impressed you know ATL's original name.

Third, this is the most supportive I have seen GL yet towards the NWA'ers...at least it's a start.
 

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First off, KIX is Osaka, Japan.

Second, Fins I am impressed you know ATL's original name.

Third, this is the most supportive I have seen GL yet towards the NWA'ers...at least it's a start.
Hey, I know they are on our team now, I just want the SLI to be fair. Not much I can do about it, but I always have an opinion, that happens to be backed up by testimony.... I can't wait to buy them beer someday (again, only 3rd and 5th rounds please).


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From Jetjack74 on Airliners.net:

"More bad news. As with the SEA-LHR, DTW-CDG and DTW-KIX-TPE will also be suspended 18JAN and 01MAR respectively. This was another internal memo from Inflight Communications. It said that more international flying opportunities would be come available in the near future, but they're unable to announce them as of yet. The transition has begun."


Now, I told you I read it somewhere, and this was it. Is it true or not? I don't know. But, sounds pretty specific. Maybe you should investigate it more. We'll see. Sounds like the planes COULD be assigned somewhere else, maybe ATL....


Bye Bye--General Lee

Airliners.net huh? In that case it MUST be true!! ;) Come on GL, are you really looking at Airliners.net for your juicy info? :laugh:

Just giving you some well deserved grief ;)
 
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