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"Again, it is way more complex than sitting in your position and passing judgement"

I never meant to pass judgement, if it cames across as that, I apologize.

Remember that, when a jetblue pilot ask for the jumpseat:)

As for the young lady, well.................
 
Diezel 8,
Are you the young lady? If so, I apologize for the wisecracks AND I have suddenly come to my senses and decided to agree with everything you have ever thought or said past present and future. If not, well....ok.....uh......Talk to you guys later
 
WOULD ALPA HAVE ACCEPTED THIS DEAL?

Please reread post #121 by dizel8. Nwa picked off the weakest union and all of the rest are next. Mgts offer to AMFA was a precursor to the Coup de grace. I could imagine the laughter in the boardroom had AMFA capitulated " Ha, we raped them and they begged for cab fare"

And sorry, that lame management excuse about protecting the mother ship from bankruptcy as a reason for no sympathy strikes is a little bit like begging the courts for mercy after murdering your parents because you are an orphan.
 
psycho said:
WOULD ALPA HAVE ACCEPTED THIS DEAL?


And sorry, that lame management excuse about protecting the mother ship from bankruptcy as a reason for no sympathy strikes is a little bit like begging the courts for mercy after murdering your parents because you are an orphan.

Good stuff man, good stuff.

(Sorry Deli)
 
Ualexpress said:
They didn't need to, the airline was shutdown.

And no work needed to be done on any airplanes? No MEL's to clear,
no cabins needed to be deep cleaned? Or was everyone told to
simply not show up for the whole two weeks?
 
Look, they are not even getting symapthy from brother unions so why should they from you. There is almost unanimous agreement that the union screwed up.

The problem is the lemming one. Are you supposed to follow the sheep to the slaughter when you think the one leading them has its head you know where.

Managements don't run around and pick off unions that are well operated. If they get picked off as you call it, it is because the union was screwed by miscalualtion, overselling, etc. Sort of management issues.
 
Publishers said:
Look, they are not even getting symapthy from brother unions so why should they from you. There is almost unanimous agreement that the union screwed up.
So YOU would allow the union to sign an agreement that furloughs half its dues-paying employees and cuts pay for the rest to less than it costs to support their families? That's not a union screwing up, it's a union sticking to the basic needs of its dues-paying members.

Managements don't run around and pick off unions that are well operated. If they get picked off as you call it, it is because the union was screwed by miscalualtion, overselling, etc. Sort of management issues.
But that's EXACTLY what NWA has done... picked off a well-organized, well-run union with to-the-last-day commitment of its members. NWA has done this in the first environment in history that it was possible with waning union support in the nation, outsourcing at its highest level in history, and fear causing the other unions to retract into their self-deluding shells and ignore the BLATANT FACT that THEIR UNION IS NEXT.

Should cleaners make $40,000 a year? Probably not. Should mechanics make $60,000 a year? Absolutely. True, AMFA's original proposal was a pay raise, but the last-ditch effort from AMFA WAS A CONCESSIONARY AGREEMENT! But Northwest made unreasonable demands, knowing the union wouldn't sign, and therefore walked AMFA right into a carefully-orchestrated path towards union breakup, bankruptcy, and pension cutting... for ALL its employees... but I've been saying NWA was going to do this for about 2 years now.
 
If I thought that the net result would be that all my members would be out, I sure would. Secondly, this is also the result of combining labor forces with different skill sets and interests because you want the dues and numbers to be credible.
 
Publishers said:
If I thought that the net result would be that all my members would be out, I sure would.

53% permanent job reduction to AMFA. 53% of AMFA equals a majority voting to strike. Do the math.
 

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