NPA forum down...AGAIN

[martye62]

Anybody know what's up? Conspicuous timing, going down around bid awards. What happened, did someone say 'crap' or 'poop' again???

 

[twepilot]

I emailed MB and he said that someone said something that requires him to seek a legal opinion...kids will be kids.

RV

 

[martye62]

So instead of deleting a thread or post, the entire forum is down...
I wonder if the ALPA forum allows words like 'poop'.

 

[martye62]

And if we need a legal opinion, I guess we have to call Laura at home and hope the kids are taking a nap so we can get an answer. I wonder if the ALPA legal team is part-time?

Wow, I sound bitter.

 

[ATLboeing]

This is such a crock of shi..t.
I NEVER recall the ALPA board being shut down in my years as a member. (Nothing ALPA vs NPA, just the people in charge of the forums)
If there was a questionable post, it was deleted. Simple.

 

[Skippy]

as long as a third party owns the site you can say whatever the hell you want, it's gone to court and thats the ruling

 

[labatt]

Can we play a little offense for once! We run away from everything like we are scared of our own shadow. I wouldn't mind losing a few battles, but we are afraid to get in any fight.

Not sure if ALPA is the answer, but how long can we continue down this path? At least the SPC email we got last night showed a glimmer of hope.

 

[ngsp]

i am just praying and looking forward to voting out the entire NPA. i am not a big fan of ALPA, but my 90 year old grandmother could do a better job than our current crew. we can either get our act together or call the company and tell them we will agree to anything, i just want SOMETHING done to get headed towards a contract. come on Mike step and lead or resign and get out of the way.

 

[Lear70]

I'd be willing to be it was taken down BECAUSE of the things said about Laura...

Could be wrong, it's happened before, but there was a pretty heated thread going about the retention of office staff, her in particular. (I like the rest of the non-pilot office staff, and think they do a fantastic job running the daily operations coordinating everything and answering questions of the 1,600+ pilots with just 2 staffers, an I.T. guy, and a communications girl).

 

[Colonel Savage]

...At least the SPC email we got last night showed a glimmer of hope.

SPC email? Hope? Can this be discussed here?

 

[tubelcane]

An email explaining why the forum was taken down would be nice. I can't support ALPA because of my lousy past with them. But I have to be honest, the NPA is really making it hard for me to not vote for ALPA when that time comes.

 

[martye62]

Yep. AND the bids still aren't out. And it closed on a weekday, so there goes the 'weekend' theory. Just keeps gettin' better.

Oh well, back to makin' tricycle motors...

 

[atldc9]

Yep. AND the bids still aren't out. And it closed on a weekday, so there goes the 'weekend' theory. Just keeps gettin' better.

Oh well, back to makin' tricycle motors...

The union took a hard line on the timeline with regards to the recall/vacancy/displacement stuff. As a result, the company is strictly interpreting all the timelines in the contract. Stop looking, the bids won"t be out until the 19th, just before 1800.

 

[gearup5]

The forum has been closed due to inappropriate activity and will remain closed pending legal review from outside counsel, James and Hoffman. Please be patient and we will keep you apprised. The forum should be back up, shortly.

this is what the forum says now.

 

[eaglesview]

UAL ALPA forum has been down for months. There is no silverlining with ALPA you are kidding yourselves.

 

[maxblast72]

ALPA is going to fix all of Airtran's problems by June 1st, didn't you get the memo? I think most of us are smarter than that. We are just looking for a little more experience, stronger legal department, and a little more structure for our union. These are 3 things ALPA can bring to the table for the same $3 million/year we are generating for the NPA right now.

If it don't work, we can always go independent again in the future just like Fedex did back in 1996. It is what it is, no use fighting against it with the emotional arguments I have been hearing. It will take work for this pilot group whether the initials on the door are NPA or ALPA.

 

[ATLboeing]

Does anybody know just what the topic was that got it shut down?

And why is our leadership always so vague? Every time something happens, they never want to tell us what's going on.

 

[PCL_128]

UAL ALPA forum has been down for months. There is no silverlining with ALPA you are kidding yourselves.

The UAL ALPA forum was shut down after a judge issued an injunction against the Association. The NPA just shuts down the forum whenever somebody looks at them weird. Seems to be a weekly occurrence now.

 

[j41driver]

So why is it still down?

 

[eaglesview]

The UAL ALPA forum was shut down after a judge issued an injunction against the Association.

Yes you are correct it was a regular butt kicking put on ALPA and their “powerful lawyers.” As I said there is no silver lining

 

[Raoul Duke]

shutting down a board because of posts for "legal" reasons is a complete joke. if there was any liability, it would be against the people making the posts except for a case like UAL where the posts themselves were not the basis of the liability but instead evidence in support of an overall liability finding. Anyone know what the subject of the posts were?

 

[Lear70]

Not officially,,,

Don't know when it will be up again, if at all. Yet another reason I'm grateful we have Brad's site...

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Does anybody know just what the topic was that got it shut down?

And why is our leadership always so vague? Every time something happens, they never want to tell us what's going on.

Telling us something might mean someone is held accountable for something. We don't want that now do we? Not to mention, we most certainly can't risk hurting Laura's feelings.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Does anybody know just what the topic was that got it shut down?

And why is our leadership always so vague? Every time something happens, they never want to tell us what's going on.

Telling us something might mean someone is held accountable for something. We don't want that now do we? Not to mention, we most certainly can't risk hurting Laura's feelings.

 

[Lear70]

No doubt, FFLS.

For everyone, just a reminder, no copying and pasting off BD's website.

(hint: there might be something there about all this that's worth reading).

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

its back up