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My apologies in advance to transcription errors...GK & Laura Wright speak quickly & the reporters go even faster...I got tired of replaying everything so I've tried to highlight the observations that I thought were the most interesting:

Productivity gains:

1Q 04 80 employees per airplane

1Q 05 73.05 employees per airplane

1.7% reduction in employees over last year
30,974 1Q05 vs. 31,522 1Q04

Salaries & benefits reduced 1.6% per unit costs over 1Q04 (lower head counts)

Cost savings:

2.6% reduction in fuel burn over last year; all -700s have winglets now

19% mx costs reduced from 1Q04; -200s have all been retired saving $$, younger fleet & better savings out -700s, -700s engine remain on the airframe longer now allowing for more flight hours between changes; technology has allowed in house mx to do more major aircraft checks resulting in fewer (more expensive) outsourcing of mx inspections/checks

Fuel hedging...everyone knows the broken record, I won't repeat it

Revenue gains:

While other carriers may view mail contracts as bad, SWA doesn't....cargo business grew 36% ($34M total for the qtr) along with a gain of 41.7% in 4Q04...mail & cargo are great income generates, not huge but nickles add up to quarters, add up to $$

Code share adding $30-50m in additional income....2Q05 will be first qtr with PHX as additional codeshare city other than MDW, expect lots of traffic to Maui & HNL

"Other income" increased 19.4%...military charters, "partnerships" with credit card companies, hotel, cruise lines, rental car agencies, etc.

Reduced costs per seat mile (CASM) decreased 1.5% from 7.82 to 7.7 cents a mile

No charges associated with closing of reservation centers unlike last year at this time

Revenue per seat mile (RASMs) increased this quarter from 8.07 to 8.22, 1.9%

Operating margin was 6.4%, net margin was 4.6% (OK in this environment but below what SWA desires)

Odds & Ends

3% reduction in seat capacity in areas SWA operates in

Indy Air in IAD, ATA in MDW, United in LAX & MDW....bodes well for the future, fewer seats in the market place...SWA has had only 1 fare increase over the last quarter maxing out at $3, other carriers have had 3-4 totally upwards of $40

Pricing power still isn't strong, full fare purchases are still only about 36% of ticket sales

southwest.com bookings in 1Q05 filled 63% of seats vs. 1Q004 of 57%

$20.3m in profit sharing, can't remember the % of increase over 1Q04 but it was

$29.3m in 401K contributions...also an increase over 1Q04

Wages & benefits on a per unit basis still expected to either flat or decrease for 2Q05

14 new flights being added this summer during high traffic time, lots of growth in N/E to FL corridor....more airplanes but little or no additional new hires at stations allows for great productivity...growing oneself to be more productive is much easier than trying to shrink oneself into productivity which is what is being attempted at other carriers (editors note)

Bookings are good for PIT (4 May)

56 quarters in a row of profitability

Record Load factor in March, 73.7%

% of flights by region (note that SW region reduction...TX, i.e. Wright Amendment)

Region 05 04

NE---------14% 13%
SE---------16% 15%
SW---------15% 17%
MW---------16% 16%
West-------39% 39%

Capital expenditures in '05 & '06 will be $1.3B, '07 $1.2 B

All new aircraft 33 firm & 1 option will be bought with cash, same for this year

Avg fare 1Q05 $91.15, 1Q04 $89.28 (keep in mind slightly over 25% of that are taxes/fees imposed by the federal, state & local governments)

Avg pax length 1Q05 758, 1Q04 737 miles 2.8%
Avg aircraft stage length 596 vs 568 miles in 1Q04 4.9%

No "ammenities" planned in the near future, TV, XM radio....costs too much, may revisit later when revenue picture increases but not now

2nd Qtr Expectations

RASM will be down due to Easter falling in 1qtr...record LF's in 2Q04...bookings are lower than normal for April right now, at normal levels for May & June...airline bookings lag economic downturns & upturns so that doesn't appear to be a factor for next quarter according to GK or LW; also adding aircraft in April (capacity) which may dilute RASM & increase CASM

My thoughts....while I'm never going to disagree with brighter minds than mine (most anyone reading this) there is another factor that hasn't been brought out by the folks asking the questions or mentioned by GK....the auto has been one of the major competitors for SWA, not just other carriers....with fuel prices consistently over $2 a gallon now what in the past has been a barrier to the traveling public (hassle factor) now may be worth enduring by a few more folks when one compares the cost in dollars & time in driving distances that 6 months ago were affordable in a car but are now cheaper by a SWA plane....is it enough of a plus to drive folks to our gates? Don't know but it can't be ignored as the gallons do add up quickly.

Hope this has been of some use for those wishing to come to Southwest.....the outlook is still bright for continued hiring & interviewing through the summer...these facts (recommend listening to the webcast by going to "investor relations" at www.southwest.com & clicking on the webcast button) will hopefully give you some insight into the company & the philosophy that new employees need to have if they want to really contribute to the company....be productive, work hard, work as a team, provide great customer service and always be on the lookout for ways to do things better & cheaper.

Good luck to all in their pursuit of your aviation goals.

Pricing pressure in MHT/PVD/BWI area due to intense competition even with slight competitor seat reduction
 
Chase-

Met you at HPA in February. I can't apply until November (1 year to end of USAF committment). Any idea how hiring will look at the end of the year ?

Just logged on here and found you're info. Thanks for the work !

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scar1900 said:
Doesn't that just say it all.

Most people just ignore this part. I can't figure out why. Who else buys all their airplanes new?
 
Thanks Chase!

For those of you comparing CASM, remember adjustments for stage length. JetBlue's stage length is over 1000.

"Avg pax length 1Q05 758, 1Q04 737 miles 2.8%
Avg aircraft stage length 596 vs 568 miles in 1Q04 4.9%"
 
How much does Load Factor make a difference in the grand scheme of things. If SWA is operationally making more money with 70+% than anyone else who were in the 80+% range what is the real number to look at. CASM? Is SW in the 70% range because of point to point flying instead of hub flying?
 
Load factor is important and is one reason why SWA needs a CASM advantage. SWA typically has many flights a day between cities. Great for the traveler who needs the flexibility.

IMHO, people enjoy the no assigned seating policy more when the plane is less than 90-100 percent full.
 
Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread Chase, I'm so excited I can't control myself.


Southwest Airlines Co.
Boeing 737-700 Delivery Schedule
As of March 31, 2005

Prior Schedule
Firm Options*
'05 34 -
'06 26 8
'07 25 29
'08 6 45
'09-'12 - 177
Total 91 259

Current Schedule
Firm Options
'05 34 -
'06 33 1
'07 25 29
'08 6 45
'09-'12 - 177
Total 98 252

Yes folks that is 177 options over 4 years in later years. Over 40 planes a year!
 
That means our total fleet # will be in the 774 A/C range if we don't pick up some additional aircraft somewhere. That means we will have to have 8000+ pilots. We currently have about 4600. There will be lots of new hires to come in the next 6 years or so. Tell your little brothers to start flying!
 
Andyix,

I wish I had definitive info for you andyix but I don't. Will we be actually interviewing at the end of the year? Normally the training center & PD like to slow down a little toward the end of the year in terms of interviewing & hiring....that being said we have done training over the Nov/Dec timeframe (myself & many others included) so nothing can be certain. Obviously with the delivery schedule of aircraft it makes sense there will be a steady stream of new hires which might be broken up with a month or so of no training/hiring....we've experienced that recently (Mar for example) but again the future is bright & I wish you good luck. Thanks for your interest in SWA...
 
SWAInflt said:
How long until the -300 retirements begin. The older ones have to be in their early 20's by now....no?

Rumor is soon ... but only the most tired ones, we've got a lot of cycles left on most of the -300s. I don't know if age is really the biggest factor. Those jets we got from sources other than boeing (Morris, AA) are POS. I'm (kind of) glad we didn't go for the USAIR jets.
 
I'm (kind of) glad we didn't go for the USAIR jets

I hear ya my brother..nothing like having a former Morris airplane round the corner
when you were expecting a shiny new -700.
 
-300 retirement dates (maybe, kind of, sort of)

I'd heard the first -300s are due to retire in '08ish timeframe....don't know how much that could slip or if it based upon D check inspection dates....whoever gets these birds will have some well kept airplanes though....they should bring a good price on the secondary market
 

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