Northwest Airlink (Wholly Owneds)

[CptMurf]

Its seems as though heads of the airlines can do what they want. Anything that is in the best interest of the company can be done.

The land is owned by RAH and I think you should show where it is not!

I am not speculating either but just incase, the pilots here already bought the big stapler.

The land is owned by the Louisville International Airport Authority and is leased to Compass who is building the hangar as part of the Louisville Airport Improvement Project. Just as RAH's hangar was built on leased airport property. The fact that they are side-by-side means nothing. No company, including UPS OWNS land on the airport.

Bedford and Anderson have never had a good relationship with each other, relatives or not. That was a known issue at XJ when Bedford was here and Anderson NWA, it was one reason Bedford went to RAH in the first place.

I wish no ill will on anyone, nor do I want to see anyone "STAPLED". Time will tell what is going to happen. One thing is certain, we need to work together through this, we are ALL ALPA carriers. Not beating each other down with "My carrier is going to take over yours." Anyone of us my find ourselves being bought/merged/BK/furloughed in short order, and you may find yourself on the wrong side of that equation.

 

[DrewBlows]

The land is owned by the Louisville International Airport Authority and is leased to Compass who is building the hangar as part of the Louisville Airport Improvement Project. Just as RAH's hangar was built on leased airport property. The fact that they are side-by-side means nothing. No company, including UPS OWNS land on the airport.

This is why I called shenanigans. I've never heard of a private firm owning any land at an airport, ever. Not that is has anything to do with anything.

 

[Metro752]

MCOE175 biggest tool ever.

 

[saab fixr]

Heres a Idea give the planes to RAH Sell the certificate and fire all the useless heavies and keep the crew to fly them Save millions and keep jobs !! for those who need them and not there to just bleed the company dry

 

[Turtlesfly]

Heres a Idea give the planes to RAH Sell the certificate and fire all the useless heavies and keep the crew to fly them Save millions and keep jobs !! for those who need them and not there to just bleed the company dry

Is this a reference to US Airways's J4J?

 

[MCOE175]

MCOE175 biggest tool ever.

HAHA... what are you 12!

Anyways before you start going on what you call facts... Look at the Earnings statements and where the money for the rented land at SDF is coming from... Do a little research before you can tell me who does what. It seems that your statements gave no merit.

The land is not owned by anyone, that is true! The land is purchased on a 99 year lease program.

I love the simple minded people who think they know what they are talking about!

Also, why don't you check the financials of Compass and see who the lease options you are flying under! I bet you should find that interesting too.

 

[PUflight]

I think all of you at RAH need to stop this we want to take over everybody mentality. Do you ever aspire to move onto a major where life is a whole helluva lot better than RAH? Or do you want to fly around in your 175's/190's for the rest of your careers? Short term gains in your career don't pay off in the long run. This is coming from a former CHQ captain and I can tell you that life at the majors blows away life at RAH.

 

[Airline Driver]

I think all of you at RAH need to stop this we want to take over everybody mentality. Do you ever aspire to move onto a major where life is a whole helluva lot better than RAH? Or do you want to fly around in your 175's/190's for the rest of your careers? Short term gains in your career don't pay off in the long run. This is coming from a former CHQ captain and I can tell you that life at the majors blows away life at RAH.

First off the people at RAH do not have a take over everybody attitude. Bedford might but the crews do not!!!! People need to read between the lines or think outside the box. For some reason that seems too difficult for people here, but what do expect this is FI. Second, Just were are Pilots who do want to move, going to go now? No one is hiring!!! I would love to go overseas and fly for Emirates, but with a family that is kind of tough. The Only airlines I would entertain would be FedEx or UPS or a cherry corporate gig. Neither of whom are hiring. You have made the move and for you the pastures maybe greener. I hope they are and wish you a long successfully career without the agony of a furlow. In doing the math financially I would not be that much farther ahead if I did move to a major. It would take me 8-10 years to get to where I am now and another 5-8 to make up the money I would have lost. Not to mention I am in the top 1/3 of a seniority list now to go to the bottom and possibly get furlowed. I am perfectly happy in the 170/175. If I get to fly the 190/195 then fine. Sometimes you have to look beyond money and do what is best for your family. Everybody's situation is different and you have to look at all aspects.

 

[MCOE175]

I think all of you at RAH need to stop this we want to take over everybody mentality. Do you ever aspire to move onto a major where life is a whole helluva lot better than RAH? Or do you want to fly around in your 175's/190's for the rest of your careers? Short term gains in your career don't pay off in the long run. This is coming from a former CHQ captain and I can tell you that life at the majors blows away life at RAH.

No doubt that this is true... But it takes years. My father is a 777 driver and it took him years and early retirement of the people higher than him to get a good QOL. Now he has it made in his final years of flying.
You got it at a good time... but for those of us that are at RAH and who have come from another regionals. the QOL of life here is not bad at all. Getting 15-18 days off a month is pretty good. The pay is not all that bad (with the exception of first year).
All that was stated before is not the pilot group hoping to take over someone else. Everyone knows how good that went with the Original Shuttle America.
The industry is changing. They way things are going know we are going to see 3 major airlines in this country.
I have a feeling we will also see a few super regionals. Skywest and RAH...
If any of us were smart we would all have gone to med school.

 

[saab fixr]

Rah is a better company then MESA as they still suck

 

[Raskal]

Speaking of NW wholly owneds. Looks like Neal Cohen is jumping ship with no announced replacement.

I thought the replacement to run us and Compass was Andy Roberts, did I hear incorrectly?

 

[CptMurf]

MCOE175 biggest tool ever.

Anyways before you start going on what you call facts... Look at the Earnings statements and where the money for the rented land at SDF is coming from... Do a little research before you can tell me who does what. It seems that your statements gave no merit.

The land is not owned by anyone, that is true! The land is purchased on a 99 year lease program.

I love the simple minded people who think they know what they are talking about!

Also, why don't you check the financials of Compass and see who the lease options you are flying under! I bet you should find that interesting too.

It seems your statements have yet to show merit or sources either.

As for checking the financials of Compass, that would be nearly impossible. They are a wholly owned company, not publicly traded and therefore do not have to release company financials.

RJET on the other hand does and here is their lastest 10k which shows that RJET does not own ANY of their buildings, they are all on long term leases. Stating here, "We lease all of our facilities subject to either long-term leases or on a month to month basis." It also, does not show any subleasing on the properties to Compass, Northwest, or MCHoldings.

On a side note you say, "The land is purchased on a 99 year lease program." You can either purchase property or lease it. If you purchase, it is yours. You may have a payment to a lender, but they are just a leinholder on the property. If you lease it, it is like renting, just a contract to pay to use the property/facility. You do not own it and it has no asset value for you or you company.

I stated as PC as I could before, but I will reiterate in more simple terms. Don't wish ill will on any other airline or pilot, because it may be you that takes the hit and ends up on bottom. Ask you Daddy about how many of his pilot friends have gone to an airline that "couldn't fail" only to be unemployed a couple of years down the road. Get over yourself.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

The Compass being sold to Republic rumor is as old as Compass is a company.

That it is! It's so hard to believe that another regional airline in North America could possibly fly the E jet besides RAH. Wow. Let's face it if Compass flew anything other than E175s this rumor would have never left the gate.

Embraer maintenence in Louisville!? Oh my god, that could only mean one thing... we're being acquired! I'm sure Expressjet is really nervous too because they do Embraer maintenence in SDF as well.

Maybe there is something to it though, I heard about a 170 trying to sneak under a fence un-noticed to try and steal NWA passengers from Compass. Look. :blush:

Sounds to me like pure 100% organic USDA approved speculation.

 

[ttuite]

That it is! It's so hard to believe that another regional airline in North America could possibly fly the E jet besides RAH. Wow. Let's face it if Compass flew anything other than E175s this rumor would have never left the gate.

Embraer maintenence in Louisville!? Oh my god, that could only mean one thing... we're being acquired! I'm sure Expressjet is really nervous too because they do Embraer maintenence in SDF as well.

Maybe there is something to it though, I heard about a 170 trying to sneak under a fence un-noticed to try and steal NWA passengers from Compass. Look. :blush:

Sounds to me like pure 100% organic USDA approved speculation.

Thank you very much for making me laugh!!!! Having been furloughed twice in the past 5 months I have been cruising the boards looking for info. All has been gloom and doom until today. Thanks again for making me laugh.